[Keith Vrabec]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Yours?

Yup mine. As found in a Delaware junkyard, pic by Alex Beam.

then when finished in 2010.

Was reunited with Roy Tyner's son Tripp this past summer in MI at St John's Concours.

An honor to take Tripp in it to pick up the Lion Award for our class. Esp when we put down a sideways noisy exit from the award stand. Grass and dust flying, Baby!

[The Boss]

They would have to be replicas - the original cars are far too valuable to race again. They could even have modern drive lines for reliability and cost savings. Who wouldn't pay to watch a Superbird getting chased by a Torino Talladega?

I'd much rather watch that than the little pickup trucks they run now.

[limejudge69]

Originally Posted by The Boss

I'd much rather watch that than the little pickup trucks they run now.

The NASCAR truck series racing is some of the best in motor sports! There's more real racing, beating and banging than in the other series by far. But yes it would be cool to see the classics back on the track.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by limejudge69

The NASCAR truck series racing is some of the best in motor sports! There's more real racing, beating and banging than in the other series by far. But yes it would be cool to see the classics back on the track.

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the truck series too & was at the race at Daytona in 2000 when Jeffrey Bodine wrecked. The "real" racing in that series is due more to the drivers willingness to race than it is the vehicle. Take those same drivers & put them in classic cars & I think the stands would be filled again.

[cuz68]

One wreck took out 9 out of 18 cup cars last night.

[sleepy]

And the Government Motors pace car burst into flames. Must have been a re-skinned VOLT.

[ho428]

This afternoon I had a choice of watching NASCAR or Curling, I chose Curling.
N'uf said.

[arbys]

Originally Posted by sleepy

And the Government Motors pace car burst into flames. Must have been a re-skinned VOLT.

A Tesla wannabe.

[Jerry H.]

Is it only me or has NASCAR gotten to be just like WWE, staged? Last year, Danica Patrick wins the pole at Daytona then is not a factor the rest of the year. Today, the #3 car, with Austin Dillon (Richard Childress grandson) wins the pole. What's the odds that he'll not finish in the top 20 in the points this year? Seems like the powers that be might just be turning their heads and letting these teams get away with a little something just for the extra publicity for the next week. And I'm definitely not a Jimmy Johnson fan, but keeping him in inspection over 1/1000 of an inch? Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I watched it as long as JR was on the pole and as soon as he got knocked off, I turned the channel.

[Sirrotica]

Jerry, I have seen Austin wheel a car in person here in Ohio. If he's not taken out in a wreck he stands a good chance of being in the top 10, he is very talented. I have also seen Wanica wheel a car in person at Eldora here in Ohio, and she wrecked the car on the second lap of the heat race. Her qualifying today wasn't the least bit impressive, nothing lost anyway as by her engine blowing in practice yesterday relegates her to the rear of the field in the twin races and next Sundays race. The only perk for her is the higher up she is in qualifying the better choice for a pit stall. Both Richard and Kyle Petty have her pegged as a no talent sideshow.

Cheatin Chad has been caught so many times cheating in NASCAR they scrutinize the 48 more so, so he is held in check. The 48 winning all the time is not helping with retaining fans, or bring new fans. The new chase format was implemented this year to give the other teams a better chance to compete and beat the 48 team.

Considering Knaus's former record and the fact the man has no desire to change his ways about rule bending is the reason that their car must be 100% within specs. If you follow NASCAR weekly the 48 team is always stuck in tech week after week because Knaus is always trying to be right on the edge of limits and sometimes over the edge. There were more infractions today as he had the tread width spaced out too far, along with having the bottom skirting too wide on the body. With a legal car the 48 team wasn't very impressive today either, 14th today.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Jerry H.

Is it only me or has NASCAR gotten to be just like WWE, staged? Last year, Danica Patrick wins the pole at Daytona then is not a factor the rest of the year. Today, the #3 car, with Austin Dillon (Richard Childress grandson) wins the pole. What's the odds that he'll not finish in the top 20 in the points this year? Seems like the powers that be might just be turning their heads and letting these teams get away with a little something just for the extra publicity for the next week. And I'm definitely not a Jimmy Johnson fan, but keeping him in inspection over 1/1000 of an inch? Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I watched it as long as JR was on the pole and as soon as he got knocked off, I turned the channel.

"It is only YOU"

[GT182]

Originally Posted by The Boss

100% it's a common template.

Having the manufacturers involved sparked an enormous level of creativity and the development of some truly special cars. Today with the common template and the ABSOLUTELY NO ****ING with the grey areas of the rule book - that creativity is gone.

....and so is a large portion of the fan base.

Yep, and eventually without the fans NASCAR could be gone. I haven't watched a NASCAR race in a long long time just because of the 'common template" mentality they have, on and off the track. Even most of the drivers today are metally deficient. The older drivers that are left must be having fits with the new kids out there.

[77 TRASHCAN]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the truck series too & was at the race at Daytona in 2000 when Jeffrey Bodine wrecked. The "real" racing in that series is due more to the drivers willingness to race than it is the vehicle. Take those same drivers & put them in classic cars & I think the stands would be filled again.

Man,
I had come home for lunch that day, and turned on the idiot box (which I normally did not do...). If i remember correctly the engine completely separated it self from the rest of the vehicle, and was rolling like a bowling ball.............Mr. Bodine was never the same after that ordeal....

Oh, I remember now, I was watching because it was the first truck race @ Daytona. I turned it on because I was hoping to see some exciting racing... and did...

[arbys]

Originally Posted by 77 TRASHCAN

..Mr. Bodine was never the same after that ordeal....

He wasn't the same before either. LOL

PS I never cared for him.

[77 TRASHCAN]

Originally Posted by Jerry H.

Is it only me or has NASCAR gotten to be just like WWE, staged? Last year, Danica Patrick wins the pole at Daytona then is not a factor the rest of the year. Today, the #3 car, with Austin Dillon (Richard Childress grandson) wins the pole. What's the odds that he'll not finish in the top 20 in the points this year? Seems like the powers that be might just be turning their heads and letting these teams get away with a little something just for the extra publicity for the next week. And I'm definitely not a Jimmy Johnson fan, but keeping him in inspection over 1/1000 of an inch? Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I watched it as long as JR was on the pole and as soon as he got knocked off, I turned the channel.

Jerry,
If you've read Smokey Yunick's book, Best Damn Garage in Town (and believe him, I do)
The powers to be can do what ever they want to do, when they want to...remember Richard Petty's win, w/ Pres. Reagan there (Daytona???).

I used to watch NASCAR, after Dale Sr. passed, it's meaningless to me...

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by 77 TRASHCAN

Man,
I had come home for lunch that day, and turned on the idiot box (which I normally did not do...). If i remember correctly the engine completely separated it self from the rest of the vehicle, and was rolling like a bowling ball.............Mr. Bodine was never the same after that ordeal....

Oh, I remember now, I was watching because it was the first truck race @ Daytona. I turned it on because I was hoping to see some exciting racing... and did...

More like a bouncing beach ball! Spinning & turning spewing smoke well beyond where the cage came to rest - it took a lot of the potential energy with it too.

We were in the stands about mid way between where the cage came to rest and the engine. Nobody was talking, the whole place was holding their breath, we were certain somebody had just died. When they put him on the stretcher & started to head towards the ambulance to put him in he reached up to adjust his oxygen mask - the place erupted!

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by Jerry H.

Is it only me or has NASCAR gotten to be just like WWE, staged? Last year, Danica Patrick wins the pole at Daytona then is not a factor the rest of the year. Today, the #3 car, with Austin Dillon (Richard Childress grandson) wins the pole. What's the odds that he'll not finish in the top 20 in the points this year? Seems like the powers that be might just be turning their heads and letting these teams get away with a little something just for the extra publicity for the next week. And I'm definitely not a Jimmy Johnson fan, but keeping him in inspection over 1/1000 of an inch? Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I watched it as long as JR was on the pole and as soon as he got knocked off, I turned the channel.

It's not just you Jerry - it's all orchestrated.

[JLHarper]

NASCAR has to come up with a better plan to get the young behinds in the seats, and fast.

Failing to market successfully to an upcoming and/or incoming generation could kill it rather quickly.

Maybe allow some jumps on pit row and drifting on corners...?

[77 TRASHCAN]

I thought Bodine was a goner too...one of the top five racing wreck's, in my opinion, thankfully w/ good results.

[JLHarper]

I think something noticeably changed in NASCAR after Dale died.

It just didn't "feel" the same, and many who worked with him, and knew him have had a time getting over his death.

People need heroes, and he has never been replaced..big shoes.

....imo