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Old 03-06-2016, 03:44 AM
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Why has no one talked about same day, same track. John Synder was in a different time zone.

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John Synder deserves a lot of credit for having a handle on is car. And he did that day. As he often does. Lots of respect for him.

I know you love your comparisons. If you were less of a dumbazz it would be easier to understand why a car with multiple issues was slower than one that was on point. But.... You are that guy.....watch the video and think to yourself... Did mikes car hook? No Comparison over. I did not have a good showing at MIR. Multiple issues. But keep using that. If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.

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I know you love your comparisons. If you were less of a dumbazz it would be easier to understand why a car with multiple issues was slower than one that was on point. But.... You are that guy.....watch the video and think to yourself... Did mikes car hook? No Comparison over. I did not have a good showing at MIR. Multiple issues. But keep using that. If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.


That's exactly why we don't race dynos!!!



Takes more than money to build an engine, also have to know how to get the HP to the ground and use it and keep it together for more than one run.

Anyone can run slower than the HP they have.


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Old 03-06-2016, 09:32 AM
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That's exactly why we don't race dynos!!!



Takes more than money to build an engine, also have to know how to get the HP to the ground and use it and keep it together for more than one run.

Anyone can run slower than the HP they have.

WOW. You just cant help it can you? I mean sometimes I make the mistake of thinking you really know better but post retarded things in an effort to not counterdict some other retarded thing you posted.

BUT NOOOO!!!!! You gotta go and prove that you really are THAT FREAKING RETARDED. what exactly does it prove??? That the car was not sorted out? Like i already said? That it was hurt on those passes and down on power like I already said? And now YOU wanna join the couple knuckle heads that only want to use those couple screwed up passes to compare to two other cars best ever passes too?
AND THAT IS WHY WE DON'T RACE DYNO'S? You're not an idiot like I thought. You own the phrase Phuctard. Conrats john you really are good at something. Maybe better than anyone else at it!!!!

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Conrats john you really ate good at something.
I think it's the 'shoulda, woulda, coulda' things you keep saying that makes me eat good.


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If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.
Ok I'll bite. You best ever pass at a Milan am race last year was 8.309. Is that your best ever Milan all motor pass? I raced there once in like 2012 or 2013 and went 8.08. The struggle is real.

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Ok I'll bite. You best ever pass at a Milan am race last year was 8.309. Is that your best ever Milan all motor pass? I raced there once in like 2012 or 2013 and went 8.08. The struggle is real.
Michigan is a big state john. In 2013/14 i beleive you went 8.08 at 1 am and prolly 1000 ft da.

At martin (I know you keep forgetting) 8.03 at 5pm june 83deg. 2700 ft da.....

The beating is real!!! You know damn well no way in you were going that fast in 2700 ft da. I'm sure you made other passes that day. Were they all 8.08. NO!!

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So to PICK one run by Mike Leech and say that run was HIS performance benchmark on the track is a bit weak in the actual data game, even for the "electron simulation" guys.
You're saying Leech is a "electron simulation" guy?


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Michigan is a big state john. In 2013/14 i beleive you went 8.08 at 1 am and prolly 1000 ft da.

At martin (I know you keep forgetting) 8.03 at 5pm june 83deg. 2700 ft da.....

The beating is real!!! You know damn well no way in you were going that fast in 2700 ft da. I'm sure you made other passes that day. Were they all 8.08. NO!!

LOL!!!!
Wasn't 2014. I was working in Tennessee then. The 8.08 was off the trailer. First round of qualifying in the heat of the day at like 3pm. I believe that was either in July or August. I don't forget about Martin. You post a video with no et. There aren't any results of qualifying of that pass anywhere. You are on a tire that is not legal anywhere. How many examples of passes at different tracks under a common set of rules do I need to produce for a comparison.

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So to PICK one run by Mike Leech and say that run was HIS performance benchmark on the track is a bit weak in the actual data game, even for the "electron simulation" guys.

Just saying.

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I was trying to be nice.



Figured most would understand that Mike was using his best pass.
I didn't pick it.
So with Tom trying to blow his horn again, then Leech jumping on his skirt, just couldn't stay focused.



Back to the original topic?

2.3 HP per CID????



Seems none of these guys know how, so who else can post some good ideas?


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Old 03-06-2016, 12:24 PM
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John Synder deserves a lot of credit for having a handle on is car. And he did that day. As he often does. Lots of respect for him.

I know you love your comparisons. If you were less of a dumbazz it would be easier to understand why a car with multiple issues was slower than one that was on point. But.... You are that guy.....watch the video and think to yourself... Did mikes car hook? No Comparison over. I did not have a good showing at MIR. Multiple issues. But keep using that. If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.
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My funny what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. Those thing did not matter to you when they happened to others.

I sure hope you fell somewhat better since Tom is here kissing your *$$.

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My funny what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. Those thing did not matter to you when they happened to others.

I sure hope you fell somewhat better since Tom is here kissing your *$$.

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Other foot? Watchoo talkin bout willis?

I'm not the one trying to compare my best to langers less than best. You and he and your gay lover ta1 are doing that.

His best to mine. 7.96 or 5 or 0 whatever you want.....to 8.03.

His best in the summer in michigan. 8.08 to my 8.03.

Stack it up how you want. I can find lots of slower passes of his yet i don't think its right to pick those for comparisons sake.

You HAVE to pick crappy data to make your retarded point.

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Other foot? Watchoo talkin bout willis?

I'm not the one trying to compare my best to langers less than best. You and he and your gay lover ta1 are doing that.

His best to mine. 7.96 or 5 or 0 whatever you want.....to 8.03.

His best in the summer in michigan. 8.08 to my 8.03.

Stack it up how you want. I can find lots of slower passes of his yet i don't think its right to pick those for comparisons sake.

You HAVE to pick crappy data to make your retarded point.
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Is this another one of those days where you fell like Charlie Brown?

Maybe my short term memory is going. But I had you in a different time zone from John Synder. Where did I post up John Langers times?

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NMCA Bradenton next week......what's it going to take to qualify number 1 in NA10.5?

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NMCA Bradenton next week......what's it going to take to qualify number 1 in NA10.5?
Should be interesting Kurt. I'll guess 7.81

And by the way good luck to you and Dwight. I hope you guys FLY

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Should be interesting Kurt. I'll guess 7.81

And by the way good luck to you and Dwight. I hope you guys FLY
Thanks, yeah I think it will take a 7.8x as well. Anxious to get back to racing for sure. Are you going to make the trip?

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Thanks, yeah I think it will take a 7.8x as well. Anxious to get back to racing for sure. Are you going to make the trip?
Not this one. I want to, but life is in the way. I'm shooting for commerce ga. Everything is waiting on something else right now and work is swamped. I will follow closely though. Wishing you guys the best!


I have a surgery scheduled on april 13 for shoulder repair. I should be good by bowling green race.

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Yes 8.08 off the trailer first round of qualifying. At a race, with known rules for tires cubic inch and weight.

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Yes 8.08 off the trailer first round of qualifying. At a race, with known rules for tires cubic inch and weight.
So now we reduced it to the only reason I was faster is because of the tire? OK I will except that.

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So now we reduced it to the only reason I was faster is because of the tire? OK I will except that.
Accept not except. Lol jus sayin'

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Accept not except. Lol jus sayin'

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Duly noted. Talk to text is not always my friend. Was in the car.

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