[mike leech]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Was 8.13 at Mir your very best or very worse? Just trying to compare same track same tire same rules results. The et in that video is a little fuzzy. Having a hard time making out what it says.

That's why I sent you the movie to watch. 8.03 in 2700 feet DA Martin Michigan June 83°. I know it's hard for you. I tried to make it easy.

Can you see the people in T-shirts and shorts?

So you're trying to say you had a 28 inch slick on your car when you went 790 on your best past ever? I'll bet not


LOL are you saying you want to see the time slip because you don't believe it? I thought you didn't care? Which one is it?

You will get your chance at same track same rules. If you think we are not going to sort it out and show up you are wrong.....

[LiL Jack]

Almost as good as a CV1 thread.

[Tom Vaught]

When someone gets close to Langer's NA Horsepower numbers there always seems to be a bit of bantering at that point.

Langer is doing good, Mike is doing good. The fun part is watching the tape measures come out. At least the tape measures are close to being correct
vs the computer simulations.

Tom V.

[Jeff Kinsler]

all you high rollers are making great power. keep it up and keep getting the Pontiacs in the winners circle!!

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

When someone gets close to Langer's NA Horsepower numbers there always seems to be a bit of bantering at that point.

Langer is doing good, Mike is doing good. The fun part is watching the tape measures come out. At least the tape measures are close to being correct
vs the computer simulations.

Tom V.

The difference is I always run better then the computers say I should. Not .5 slower. Just sayin'

[Stan Weiss]

Why has no one talked about same day, same track. John Synder was in a different time zone.

Stan

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by John Langer

The difference is I always run better then the computers say I should. Not .5 slower. Just sayin'

.5 you're funny! .18 off your best ever with junk cylinder and the car sliding out 1.79 seconds and .26-.28 off in 330', a blown shock, wrong converter. Thats the run you wana latch on to. Ok you and your lil butthurt buddy stan can mull this over. I am SURE you both will find it satisfying. LOL.

Is everybody else almost done building your engine and car for you? I hope they get it done for you soon.

It must be hard waiting on them to get it all done for you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=10I-zXbCjjU

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Why has no one talked about same day, same track. John Synder was in a different time zone.

Stan

John Synder deserves a lot of credit for having a handle on is car. And he did that day. As he often does. Lots of respect for him.

I know you love your comparisons. If you were less of a dumbazz it would be easier to understand why a car with multiple issues was slower than one that was on point. But.... You are that guy.....watch the video and think to yourself... Did mikes car hook? No Comparison over. I did not have a good showing at MIR. Multiple issues. But keep using that. If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.

[johnta1]

I know you love your comparisons. If you were less of a dumbazz it would be easier to understand why a car with multiple issues was slower than one that was on point. But.... You are that guy.....watch the video and think to yourself... Did mikes car hook? No Comparison over. I did not have a good showing at MIR. Multiple issues. But keep using that. If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.

That's exactly why we don't race dynos!!!



Takes more than money to build an engine, also have to know how to get the HP to the ground and use it and keep it together for more than one run.

Anyone can run slower than the HP they have.

[yruslo]

NMCA Bradenton next week......what's it going to take to qualify number 1 in NA10.5?

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by yruslo

NMCA Bradenton next week......what's it going to take to qualify number 1 in NA10.5?

Should be interesting Kurt. I'll guess 7.81

And by the way good luck to you and Dwight. I hope you guys FLY

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by johnta1

That's exactly why we don't race dynos!!!



Takes more than money to build an engine, also have to know how to get the HP to the ground and use it and keep it together for more than one run.

Anyone can run slower than the HP they have.

WOW. You just cant help it can you? I mean sometimes I make the mistake of thinking you really know better but post retarded things in an effort to not counterdict some other retarded thing you posted.

BUT NOOOO!!!!! You gotta go and prove that you really are THAT FREAKING RETARDED. what exactly does it prove??? That the car was not sorted out? Like i already said? That it was hurt on those passes and down on power like I already said? And now YOU wanna join the couple knuckle heads that only want to use those couple screwed up passes to compare to two other cars best ever passes too?
AND THAT IS WHY WE DON'T RACE DYNO'S? You're not an idiot like I thought. You own the phrase Phuctard. Conrats john you really are good at something. Maybe better than anyone else at it!!!!

[johnta1]

Conrats john you really ate good at something.

I think it's the 'shoulda, woulda, coulda' things you keep saying that makes me eat good.

[johnta1]

The thing is, most racers make more than one run.
If they have a broken spring, they fix it and make another pass/run.
If they have a problem with the engine they fix it and continue racing.
They don't base their best passes on some useless run.

They don't do a couple passes and call it a year?

Then spout off how they would be faster if they hadn't had any problems?

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by johnta1

I think it's the 'shoulda, woulda, coulda' things you keep saying that makes me eat good.

Lol. Stick the 8.03 at 169 run in your calculator. Add 2975 for weight. Ignore the fact it hit the bars and unloaded. Ignore the 2700ft da.

And eat that. The only think you are chewing on is you own retarded nonsense and waste. I really figured by now you would have hoped up and down about the leaking block and the dairy farmers block. Maybe you just needed a nudge? Eh? Being you are so experianced with doing nothing and cheering for unrelated things.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by johnta1

The thing is, most racers make more than one run.
If they have a broken spring, they fix it and make another pass/run.
If they have a problem with the engine they fix it and continue racing.
They don't base their best passes on some useless run.

They don't do a couple passes and call it a year?

Then spout off how they would be faster if they hadn't had any problems?

Ok john. This year i will make sure i put an extra set of santuff $2500 struts in the trailer JUST so I don't disappoint you! LOL everyone else goes fast every time and never ever has to sort out a combo.

As if you will EVER say anything good no matter what..... We all expect your retarded rants at this point I veiw it as entertainment. Dance little monkey....dance

[John Langer]

Originally Posted by mike leech

If you and langer want to compare against that outing, i want to compare to ANY pass langer ever made in the state of Michigan. LOL.

Ok I'll bite. You best ever pass at a Milan am race last year was 8.309. Is that your best ever Milan all motor pass? I raced there once in like 2012 or 2013 and went 8.08. The struggle is real.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by John Langer

The difference is I always run better then the computers say I should. Not .5 slower. Just sayin'

TRUTH. (That basically says that the 'fudge factors' used in the typical "electron simulation" do not match reality with a well performing car".

Just like using a Dyno Procedure originally designed for a 50 cubic inch engine does not match reality when a 500+ cubic inch engine running on the dyno.

The facts have been posted here before but the "electron simulation" guys want to keep
the flawed procedure spouted by the "simulation guys" or the "take your money at the dyno" guys.

Even the track numbers do not represent reality if you only have a couple of data points (with mine shaft air) atmospheric conditions. At least using the track numbers and a number of passes you get a solid foundation to start with.

I used to run track Test Track Aero Drag tests with very high tech measurement/ recording equipment (with hundreds of thousands of data points each run) 14 runs (7 in each direction on the track) and we called that 'one test on one day'. we would test over several days with different combinations of tires, parts, conditions before we reported a number.

So to PICK one run by Mike Leech and say that run was HIS performance benchmark on the track is a bit weak in the actual data game, even for the "electron simulation" guys.

Just saying.

Tom V.

[yruslo]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Should be interesting Kurt. I'll guess 7.81

And by the way good luck to you and Dwight. I hope you guys FLY

Thanks, yeah I think it will take a 7.8x as well. Anxious to get back to racing for sure. Are you going to make the trip?

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Ok I'll bite. You best ever pass at a Milan am race last year was 8.309. Is that your best ever Milan all motor pass? I raced there once in like 2012 or 2013 and went 8.08. The struggle is real.

Michigan is a big state john. In 2013/14 i beleive you went 8.08 at 1 am and prolly 1000 ft da.

At martin (I know you keep forgetting) 8.03 at 5pm june 83deg. 2700 ft da.....

The beating is real!!! You know damn well no way in you were going that fast in 2700 ft da. I'm sure you made other passes that day. Were they all 8.08. NO!!

LOL!!!!