[north]

My first GTO was a 2bbl (I was not exactly on the ball, I only noticed it had a 2bbl when I got her home). It was a low option hardtop; Warwick blue, parchment bench with only p.s. and an AM radio.

When I got it it was painted CR with judge stickers but no stripes or wing. It was a s***box but I must admit in normal city driving it had nicer initial response than a 4bbl car with the same 2.93 gears would have had.

I believe that many of the 2bbl cars ended up in rental car fleets.

[GRX]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

You mean they actually make a 400-2 sticker?

Originally Posted by gto4evr

ha! considering they never made the 400-4 originally either, I'm surprised they don't make a 194-4 for those 4 cylinder half a v-8 blocks!

When Anthony gave me his original 326 from his 67 clone he threw in an aftermarket chrome open element air cleaner, and you guessed it, the famous sticker on it with 326-4 called out!!

Yeah. How did those aftermarket air cleaner stickers become so pervasive? I see them on everything now, not just GM. Some people actually think they are factory original.

[limejudge69]

Originally Posted by GRX

Some people actually think they are factory original.

They are factory original. FOR BUICKS!

[gto4evr]

Originally Posted by GRX

Yeah. How did those aftermarket air cleaner stickers become so pervasive? I see them on everything now, not just GM. Some people actually think they are factory original.

It's a combination of things. First off, people can't understand the lack of identity these cars have. They see the Chevy 396 emblems, the vette 327 flags, the mopar 383 pie tins, the 455 HO call outs on the 71's, even the Lemans' at least have the 350 on the rockers, what does a 69 GTO have? Nothing. What was GM thinking?!?! No where on the car does anything tell you what motor it has in it, At least the older goats had a 6.5 litre in the emblem. Top that off with the fact that you can't tell by looking at the motor whether it's a 326 or a 455 when you pop the hood at the show so people grasp for pretty stickers. Not fair that your 68 sits there with a plain jane bare air cleaner lid when you've got a 71 on one side of you with that monster 455HO sticker on his air cleaner, and the guy on the other side has his Belvedere with that glinting 383 Super Commando pie tin on his. You see the Pontiac arrowhead next to 400-4 and either you don't know any better, or decide that it's easier than answering the inevitable question: "what motor's it got?"

I can understand the madness, still wouldn't get me to run one on my car under pain of torture, but that's just me, I don't begrudge the guys doing it. (and yes, that picture I loaded with the 326-4 is actually from my 71 lemans (with a 350-4 in it)....I put it on there as a joke for my fellow pontiac buddies around here and haven't gotten around to putting the correct air cleaner back on it yet!)

[cuz68]

If you find him or her shoot 1 shot for me TKS.

[straycat]

Mine originally was Verdoro Green with parchment bench and column shifted. Only the original trans is still in it.

[Little Bob]

I have a 400 2bbl convert with 32,000 original miles sitting in the garage being restored. Red with black top and black interior.

[rare4k]

the one I just picked up is a 400 2bbl 265 auto convert with pw windows am/fm and his/hers. don't know why the his and hers with only 265hp

[Little Bob]

Originally Posted by rare4k

the one I just picked up is a 400 2bbl 265 auto convert with pw windows am/fm and his/hers. don't know why the his and hers with only 265hp

I know mine has the his her shifter too. My car is 4 wheel non power drum and non power steering. Did anyone do an inventory of how many of the original 432 cars are left?

[salem1912]

Did a 2bbl always have a automatic?

[gtoric]

Yes.

[Aus Goat]

Like most my 2bbl has been changed over to 4bbl . I think the numbers of 2bbl GTO's untouched would be quite small now.

[north]

You can't spot them on the 69 PHS because it was a no charge option. Not sure if 67-68 PHS is the same problem.

I guess the only way to know for sure is by engine VIN, trans code, axle code or actual build sheet. I would imagine many on the road now have been made into regular 350horse cars.

[U47]

Originally Posted by rare4k

the one I just picked up is a 400 2bbl 265 auto convert with pw windows am/fm and his/hers. don't know why the his and hers with only 265hp

Even 355 H-O's and 265 hp 355 2bbls came with his/hers T-400's. The H-O's when making the A/T selection automatically got you a T-400. The 355 2bbl, you had to specify T-400 or ST-300.