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Help?1969 Judge stock tire size?
I want to install the stock tire size on my 1969 Judge in the bias ply redine tires like they came from Factory.I know they are 14 inch but what was the size as far as G70-E70 or whatever?Can anyone tell me what brand were the redline tires in 69 also and where is the best place to get them.Thanks for any info.
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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G70
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Rich Johns Owner/Operator of Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc. www.purestockauto.com 1969 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3:90 1970 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3:90 Oshawa Built 1970 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 Speed 3.64 # 67 of 678 Original Paint 1970 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3.64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 mph 2011 Buick GS Nats Pure Stock, 12.71@110.64 mph PSMCDR 2011 1970 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 mph PSMCDR 2009 1970 GS 455 M21 4 Speed 3.42 1987 GN Astro Roof |
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Thanks for the reply.Were the regular 69 GTOs the same as the judge as far as tire size because on a web page it said G78 was stock size for 69 GTO?Youve got a lot of nice cars.I used to go to GS nationals with an 87 Grand National I had and always liked the GS and GSXs.Rare cars especially with stage 1 motor.My son has my GN now.
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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69 Judge - standard issue tire was G70x14 BLACKwall
G70 Redlines or Whitewalls were an extra charge option and will list on the invoice. About $30-40 on a Judge - more on a GTO Don't see too many Judges with tire options on their invoice, but have some examples. Have a 69 Framingham plant Judge build sheet that declares Goodyear tires. Not sure if that was a variance from plant to plant or month to month. Just putting it out there. No other plant listed tire brand - that i have on file. Have a 69 GTO order form that lists G78x14 - Redline Standard G78 Whitewall - No Charge. Then there are FIBERGLASS G78 under those in Redline or Whitewall - that would appear to be extra cost options. Then G70 FIBERGLASS under those in Redline or Whitewall - that would definitely be an extra cost option. G70 BLACKwall is not listed on this order form. It is dated 10/26/68 |
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Thanks for the info.Very helpful.Looks like the Judge came with G70s and a regular GTO had G78 standard and G70 optional.
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Those G70-14 blackwalls are getting closer!!!
Prior to Goodyears Polyglas, the tire manufactures used nylon for belting. Nylon carries a memory, think flat spotting. The Polyglas was polyester and fiberglass belting..less of a memory issue. If you guys have questions, I am happy to help. My cell is 816-654-3400.
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Russell Small 1969 Hurst/Olds 13.26 @103.1 "Pure Stock is the way to Rock" |
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Yea,I grew up in the 60s and had those nylon tires so I know all about those flat spots but after a few miles they were okay.Thanks.Does anyone remake goodyear redlines.Ive only seen the firestones and uniroyals
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Yes, Kelsey is the exclusive distributor of all Goodyear reproduction tires. I can help you with any tire that Kelsey has. My cell is 816-654-3400.
Kelsey's website is www.kelseytire.com
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Russell Small 1969 Hurst/Olds 13.26 @103.1 "Pure Stock is the way to Rock" |
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Thanks for the info.Wont be buying tires for a while yet but like the goodyears better than the firestones and I beleive I can get them here at a dealer so I wont have to pay shipping.
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Might even be able to get a discount on the goodyears since my father and mother both retired from goodyear and get discount coupons every year but not sure if they will be good for these tires.
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Just give me a call when you are ready to buy. The tires are not made by Goodyear, but Goodyear is involved in the technical side.
All have to buy through Kelsey, so the cost of shipping is there. All I am saying is contact me before you buy!
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Russell Small 1969 Hurst/Olds 13.26 @103.1 "Pure Stock is the way to Rock" |
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Will do.Can you get me a discount?I seen on their website where they were $250 each plus shipping.Thanks
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Yes, I can. Send me your zipcode and I will put together a quote. No oblogations. My cell is 816-654-3400.
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Russell Small 1969 Hurst/Olds 13.26 @103.1 "Pure Stock is the way to Rock" |
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45885
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Quote is in your pm box.
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Russell Small 1969 Hurst/Olds 13.26 @103.1 "Pure Stock is the way to Rock" |
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Pontiac stated in their advertising that all Judges came with Polyglas blackwalls,
which would indicate that all Judges came with Goodyears installed from the factory. I know that personally I never saw any of them have anything but Goodyears on them when the cars were new. Has anyone ever heard of one being built with Firestones? |
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Small Hurst.These are the old style tread like back in 69 or is this the radial tread because I know they make both?Also can you post a photo of the sidewall showing redline and a photo of the tread?And the quote is for G-70x14?Thanks
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1969 Matador Red GTO Judge,1999 Ram Air Trans Am,1998 Daytona Pace Car Grand Prix,1959 Bonneville,2004 GXP Bonneville. |
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Hi there.
Kelsey only builds true representations of the original tires. All Goodyear Polyglas are bias ply polyester and Fiberglas tires. Here is a link to the photo of the tires:http://www.kelseytire.com/pages/larg...lyglas-RS.html
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Russell Small 1969 Hurst/Olds 13.26 @103.1 "Pure Stock is the way to Rock" |
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