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Old 05-16-2014, 07:35 AM
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Default Millions of unsold cars worldwide (many photos)

New car production has beencranking away, with no regard for demand. Knew that 25 years ago. Here's the photo results of open-ended production.


http://www.vincelewis.net/unsoldcars.html

Maybe someone can make a BIZ plan to apply these cars.

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Old 05-16-2014, 07:56 AM
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Looks like mostly foreign cars and overseas. If they were here in the USA Obama would probably make the auto maker give them away to welfare rats.

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Old 05-16-2014, 08:38 AM
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The link "claims" that "no one is buying new cars" than corrects it self and says they are but "not at on the scale they once were".

Earth to the author (at least here in the U.S)...

In 2007 - U.S. auto sales totaled just over 16 million units. We all know what happened in 2008 when sales plummeted by nearly 3 million units. In 2009 sales fell by almost another 3 million units.

However - since 2009 - sales have increase each year by significant margins. In 2013 - sales surpassed what was sold in 2007 and 2006.

In 2014 - sales are up over 2013.

Now I am not familar with the overall worldwide car sales. But he does alude to the problem in the U.S. also - which is patently false.

So I am going to theorize that this is just his conspiracy theory....

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Old 05-16-2014, 10:51 AM
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The author is obviously not familiar with automotive mass production.

Shipping lots and railheads often look like that, just as a result of getting vehicles aligned and loaded onto the appropriate rail car.

Standard operating procedure. The back lot of Flint Assembly looks like that right now.

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Here's how the "back yard" looked in 1979:



How about Pontiac Michigan in 1967? You can't claim cars weren't selling then:



One day of production of Ford Model T (circa 1919), Highland Park Michigan:
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:48 AM
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wow..wonder if my 79 suburban was in that pic.. flint built baby! just like my 76 c10..and my 84 park avenue.....and the engine and body of my 87 regal....buick city baby..back in the day when i was young and we would drive through flint and see the all the cars at the plants--made ya proud..and the cool buick city welcomes you bill board on I75......

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The link "claims" that "no one is buying new cars" than corrects it self and says they are but "not at on the scale they once were".

Earth to the author (at least here in the U.S)...

In 2007 - U.S. auto sales totaled just over 16 million units. We all know what happened in 2008 when sales plummeted by nearly 3 million units. In 2009 sales fell by almost another 3 million units.

However - since 2009 - sales have increase each year by significant margins. In 2013 - sales surpassed what was sold in 2007 and 2006.

In 2014 - sales are up over 2013.

Now I am not familar with the overall worldwide car sales. But he does alude to the problem in the U.S. also - which is patently false.

So I am going to theorize that this is just his conspiracy theory....
tin foil hat territory... like 2002Z4CSS's comment.

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The author is obviously not familiar with automotive mass production.

Shipping lots and railheads often look like that, just as a result of getting vehicles aligned and loaded onto the appropriate rail car.

Standard operating procedure. The back lot of Flint Assembly looks like that right now.

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Thxs Keith for the "Voice of Reason" and Reality Check.

Now here's a pic of cars burnt from 2011 Japan quake...


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A 8.9-magnitude earthquake and resulting tsunami devastated much of Japan, with staggering death-tolls and estimates of $100 billion in property damage. As one might expect, Japan's auto industry has been and will be heavily affected by the nationwide disaster. Power outages have brought plants to a halt, and the Nikkei, Japan's stock market, has taken notice.

Japan's major automakers have taken substantial losses in the aftermath of the quake, with most manufacturers faring worse than the market's overall drop of 6.2 percent. Mitsubishi had the roughest go of all automakers with a nine percent decline, followed by Isuzu at 8.9 percent, Nissan (8.5 percent), Toyota (7.2 percent) and Honda 3.8 percent)...
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/14/r...nges-post-qua/

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The close up pics showed old cars. Those Durangos must be from 2005. The Honda Accords were previous gen cars from two years ago. I think it would be easy to gather up pics of cars stockpiled from various years and write a story about how this is going on right now.

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I noticed at the bottom of the page it says, "Yes I'm also an author and my book on conspiracy theories has no correlation whatsoever with this webpage." Yup, yup, yup.

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The author is obviously not familiar with automotive mass production.

Shipping lots and railheads often look like that, just as a result of getting vehicles aligned and loaded onto the appropriate rail car.

Standard operating procedure. The back lot of Flint Assembly looks like that right now.

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I have pictures of me in one of the DT&I rail yards in 1964 with stacks and stacks of Ford frames just sitting there waiting to be shipped to a factory. Agreed, common practice.

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Plucked right from a 2009 article http://www.businessinsider.com/unsol...e-world-2009-2

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My Dad hauled Ramblers (worked for KAT) out of Kenosha WI., from 1953 to 1973ish. Many timers we would go to the loading area when Dad was loading to give him money or food for the trip. The loading area was adjacent to the new car parking area and there would be thousands of Ramblers all waiting to be hauled out. Especially the ones going to the railroad because they would haul so many at a time, versusu 5-6 or 7 cars per transport depending on what time frame (what year). That was the mid to late '70's when Rambler sales were still good.

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So the article premise was bogus.

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The author claimed that a manufacturer who emptied a lot must have "recycled the new cars".
Car manufacturers report inventory levels (days of inventory) and nothing seems unreasonable except for a few slow-selling models.

In the Chicago area there used to be a huge lot of new Toyotas for the Chicago market. They were simply waiting for a local company to install the AC systems. Back in the 80's Japan shipped them here without since AC was uncommon in Japan's mild climate.

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If they made cooler/cheaper cars I would bet there would be less in the stockpile. When I look at the pics all I see are a parking lot of bland cars in bland colors.

That image of the Nissan track track made me chuckle. If they still made a real Skyline that was affordable and fast they would sell. The only cool thing they make now is the 370z, everything else is butt ugly and are cheap throwaways.

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I worked on the docks for 13 years down Philly, Jersey and Delaware. They would stock all those cars like that so they could be shipped. That way when the ship comes in, they would take vans full of guys to the lots to drive the cars onto the ship, all day long. I was on a giant ship back in the 80's that was going to China. They loaded 7000 Chevy Citations on it. They were all the same, basic cars with stick shifts. The were going to become taxi's. The ship was 14 levels.

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I was on a giant ship back in the 80's that was going to China. They loaded 7000 Chevy Citations on it.
They should have shipped the lot all of them to China.

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The auto industry has always been one where you have a product made and then convince people they need it. The pics illustrate that basis.

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Those photos have been photoshopped to heck. Bunch of bunk.

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