[ho428]

At least I got one article in HPP and a side bar article in PE before it shut down.

I've been planning on a full tear down and rebuild on the 68 Road Race Firebird, was planning to document everything and submit it. Guess I'll send it to Grassroots motorsports when the time comes.

[GTOnly70]

Well, it was only a matter of time, but I thought HPP would be around for at least a few more years. The brand has been gone for nearly half a decade now, and interest in Pontiac will continue to wane.

I remember when the original Musclecar Review ceased production years ago. I had been a subscriber since 1984 when it was called Classic Sixties. I believe the remainder of my subscription was transferred to Hot Rod. Luckily Hemmings Muscle Machines stepped in fill the void and is, IMO, by far the best car magazine out there. Collectible Automobile is also excellent.

I was a subscriber to Pontiac Enthusiast when it got folded into that glorified advertising catalog called Amos Auto Enthusiast. If there is any justice, that worthless waste of paper has since folded.

[69*Goat]

I e-mailed Stephen Kim last night. He was the Assoc. Editor that came to shoot my GTO for PHR, and write the article. He said as a freelancer, he did, and didn't really lose a job. Where he will have a problem is there being fewer publications that he can work for, and will probably force him to drop his fee. He made the comment, that he wished he had gone into the oil business...

[JC455]

What happens to all the archived material?

[1969GTO]

that will come out in an expencive hard cover when the 1974 GTO turns 50 years.

[Captainofiron]

This is pretty depressing.

I use to have a subscription to them, but it kept getting more expensive, so back in college I had to let it run out.

if its folding into Hot Rod, RIP any Pontiac related coverage.

they might do some stories, but it will probably be less HPP and more HPPWL (High Performance Pontiac car With an LS)

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Captainofiron

This is pretty depressing.

if its folding into Hot Rod, RIP any Pontiac related coverage.

they might do some stories, but it will probably be less HPP and more HPPWL (High Performance Pontiac car With an LS)

Don Keefe had a pretty good Pontiac article in the last issue of Hot Rod.

[Captainofiron]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Don Keefe had a pretty good Pontiac article in the last issue of Hot Rod.

knowing Frieburger I bet it will be little to no Poncho coverage.

Hes the reason I have ditched many subscriptions

[77 TRASHCAN]

Originally Posted by Captainofiron

knowing Frieburger I bet it will be little to no Poncho coverage.

Hes the reason I have ditched many subscriptions

Crap, everything there is mopar oriented. That's sick!!!

[Diego]

Originally Posted by Captainofiron

knowing Frieburger I bet it will be little to no Poncho coverage.

Hes the reason I have ditched many subscriptions

1. Freiburger is not the editor of Hot Rod magazine.

2. You're more than welcome to take your money elsewhere - they can't always cater to everyone - but you're missing out on a fine magazine. Seeing that you don't even know who the editor is, it stands to reason.

[Chastings]

Bummer. I spend a lot of time on the road and look forward to reading the digital version on my ipad--really helps pass the time.

Sorry to all those that lost jobs.

And thanks for all the hard work you put into the mag--especially thanks for the cameo shot in the July issue!

[keith k]

Originally Posted by Diego

1. Freiburger is not the editor of Hot Rod magazine.

.... which is kind of a bummer. I give him full credit for turning Hot Rod around and making it relevant and interesting when he took over many years ago. (It no doubt helps that my automotive interests are very diverse...). I think HRM has lost a bit of its "edge" again recently since Freiburger's attentions have been spread more broadly.

Very sorry to see HPP gone. I have been a subscriber on/off (mostly on) going just about back to the Thunder Am days, too.

[Garry Sr]

Surviving the economy collapse then closing shop on a better note isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Willshire]

I would like to think that since There has been such a run of this mag that we could compile all that has been written and make two hard cover, every body wants one, Pontiac magazine compilation. One for tech and one for readers rides with backstories. No ads, no bs just a collection of 35 years of tech and rides.

[angelo]

Back in 2009 I had a subscription to a techy magazine (C++ Users Journal), when they killed that magazine, the last issue had a paper on the top explaining the end of the magazine. Three months later they sent me a CD with the complete archive of every issue, in the package they invited me to subscribe to the magazine they moved some of the article segments to (Dr Dobbs). A couple years later they converted that magazine to a digital/online only magazine. All of my techy subscriptions went digital in the past 2-3 years, I'm now observing this happen to my non-techy magazines too. Do not be surprised in 1-2 years if you're forced to read Car Craft or Hot Rod on an iPad or Android tablet.

A CD with the archive of all the past issues of HHP would be an "Acceptable" send off gift in my opinion. I hope that will happen, it would take someone who remains on the staff to think of it as an opportunity to salvage the situation.

I also have a subscription to Popular Hot Rodding but recently let my subscription to "Hot Rod" laps because I thought that magazine lacked in how-to/tech articles and was not targeted to folks who touch tools. I wonder how they will explain merging two or more subscriptions into 1 in the coming weeks.

[NeighborsComplaint]

Just went to the HPP website and got a 1 year subscription for $24.97 popup.

[zephyrracer]

Read a magazine off an i-pad never never never and did I mention never, Just what I have always wanted was to sit down on a Saturday after noon and read my I-pad, never.

Gregg

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by angelo

Back in 2009 I had a subscription to a techy magazine (C++ Users Journal), when they killed that magazine, the last issue had a paper on the top explaining the end of the magazine. Three months later they sent me a CD with the complete archive of every issue, in the package they invited me to subscribe to the magazine they moved some of the article segments to (Dr Dobbs). A couple years later they converted that magazine to a digital/online only magazine. All of my techy subscriptions went digital in the past 2-3 years, I'm now observing this happen to my non-techy magazines too. Do not be surprised in 1-2 years if you're forced to read Car Craft or Hot Rod on an iPad or Android tablet.

A CD with the archive of all the past issues of HHP would be an "Acceptable" send off gift in my opinion. I hope that will happen, it would take someone who remains on the staff to think of it as an opportunity to salvage the situation.

I also have a subscription to Popular Hot Rodding but recently let my subscription to "Hot Rod" laps because I thought that magazine lacked in how-to/tech articles and was not targeted to folks who touch tools. I wonder how they will explain merging two or more subscriptions into 1 in the coming weeks.

Good ideas. Check this out "...in danger of being lost through technological obsolescence."
Sometimes nothing beats a Hardcopy/Print Edition.

'digital archiving incompatibility '
What's wrong with digital archiving?

Archiving information in digital formats introduces a number of complications.

File Formats
Will current file formats last forever? History says otherwise. If history repeats itself current file formats will not be used in the next 10-15 years.

What problems does that introduce if we archive documents in todays formats? Will we be able to access them in the future? Will we have to convert them all down the line?

Proprietary formats
What's happens if an IT/Software company goes bust or discontinues a product. Will there be a system to upgrade or migrade databases and files?

Storage Media
If the issues with file formats have got you worried what about storage media?

The CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD recordable drives, tape back-up drives etc. Will these media storage formats be around for years to come? With the pace of current development the chances are the answer is no.

Not only that but all digital media has a finite lifespan, meaning even if drives in 10-15 years are capable of reading these media formats with they still be in pristine condition?

Only time will tell if we can solve this increasingly serious problem, as more and more of our data is stored electronically this becomes a more and more pertinent problem.

I'll finish with a link to the BBC Domesday project 1986. A perfect example of the problems with digital archiving. The CAMiLEON project was commissioned recently to try to retrieve the contents of this archive from 1980's laserdisks and BBC Micro formatted files.

The CAMiLEON project http://www.iconbar.com/forums/viewthread.php?newsid=937

[KJL]

This sucks. Just re-upped for another three years last weekend. Was holding off to the last minute. Guess I was thinking something like this would happen.
Wonder what mag, if any, they will substitute?

[afx421]

thank god! there was NOTHING high performance about that mag anymore, im sick and tired of looking at corporate small block powered cars and how to restore your rallye 2s!! no drag race tech or cars... lets see a REAL high performance Pontiac mag!!