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Old 09-25-2014, 09:48 AM
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This 2nd pic, is my battery. I sent it out, probably posted. It was sent to me from friend, notice it has french writing. It has a date stamp of 1978, came out of 79 vette from Quebec. Car had 8k miles, wouldn't charge, guy saved it since 1983.
It's just the freedom. I have called around a lot on this, & I came out 79 or 80, some tell me 81.
I talked with antique battery manufacturer, no plans yet to do a freedom. He said, $250, he would take mine apart and redo, he says it will last at least 6yrs...


UOTE=Norwood;5276607]Ya just like the first one. In fact the very same one came new in our 76 c30 tow truck[/QUOTE]


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Paging Bob: Our '78 W72 motor front passenger side of engine had a bright yellow paint splotch on top of the factory blue engine paint, and a black ink "OK-2" inspection stamped on the yellow paint.

A while back, there was a PYr who made up several diff stamps and was selling them for Resto use.

Did your motor have the same?

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Alvin, where's your pictures of this?

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Old 09-26-2014, 11:33 AM
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Alvin, where's your pictures of this?
Ours was painted over during a previous detailing...picture taken before w 35mm analog camera, not able to lay hands on the exact photo...

However, ours looked very similar to the one show on page one below - EXCEPT - ours had the previously mentioned "yellow paint splotch" between Pontiac engine blue painted passenger head and the stamp as shown below HERE

Note: refer to same T/A engine w OK-2 stamp image on page 169 in Gary Witzenburg's FIREBIRD!

Edit: FWIW referring to our Van Nuys built '78 W72 Stick. What box(s) on build sheet will tell build date?

Looking @ Box 1. reads:
Job Sequence Number
004267

Sched No Date
15-4267
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Your scheduled date of 3-16.

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Old 09-26-2014, 10:01 PM
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Your scheduled date of 3-16.
Thx for verification - thought it was a March 16 built. Know of any good links to decoding all Buildsheet boxes information?

Here's the photo (below) w the OK-2 stamp similar to that on ours...


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To date, no original T/A 6.6 Firebirds have been documented with block cast dates later than November 1977. My research continues with the casting dates, but if this trend remains consistent, then it appears that all 400-cid blocks (both 500557 and XX481988) used for the W72 Performance Package were only produced through November 1977. Referenced from Page 5
Food for thought: Wondering out loud if the Norwood vs. Van Nuys W72 engines were inspected and/or stamped differently?
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All 1977-79 Firebirds produced with the T/A 6.6 engine option list UPC code W72 PERF PACKAGE (NORWOOD, OH) or W72 PERFORM PKG (VAN NUYS, CA) on the factory build sheet. Referenced from Page 2
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Anyone reproducing the bar code stickers yet?

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Know of any good links to decoding all Buildsheet boxes information?
Answering my own Q, Found this excellent "Build Sheet Bingo" by The Hoghead Boyz
Check it out http://www.firebirdtransamparts.com/...ingo/bingo.htm

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Anyone reproducing the bar code stickers yet?
I've read of some reproduced for 1977 Pontiac motor Can Ams by Rick aka 77 Canamman personal use...unable to find a link right now, but they were dead-on appearance as I recall. Perhaps he can chime in.

Here's example page on 73-75 Grand Ams http://www.pontiacpower.org/Emblems.htm

Perhaps Inline Tube has more options to these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-79-WA-Pon...-/190824069138

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Old 09-27-2014, 12:26 AM
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I've read of some reproduced for 1977 Pontiac motor Can Ams by Rick aka 77 Canamman personal use...unable to find a link right now, but they were dead-on appearance as I recall. Perhaps he can chime in.
Here you go LINK http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=716492

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Originally Posted by 77 Canamman. A little something I have been working on
Compare to the grainy photo I worked off from:


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Finished product. I printed it on Avery adhesive back paper decal material. This might have been what GM used in 1977. Life expectancy about 6 months.. LOL


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Old 09-27-2014, 08:07 AM
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Cool bar code sticker

Is WC, or X7, being made?
I just, got a 78 marti, another van nuys, from Nevada.. WS6 W72... for my oldest, just turned 15 last month...

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Some of the build sheet diagnosis here too...
http://www.78ta.com/build.php

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Food for thought: Wondering out loud if the Norwood vs. Van Nuys W72 engines were inspected and/or stamped differently?
I would assume because they were built at the Pontiac Engine Assembly Plant, they would be the same.

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Is WC, or X7, being made?
I just, got a 78 marti, another van nuys, from Nevada.. WS6 W72... for my oldest, just turned 15 last month...
Excellent. Don't forget to ad it to the Martinique thread. Not certain about the WC / X7 sticker repop...but obviously their day has come for production.


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Some of the build sheet diagnosis here too...
http://www.78ta.com/build.php
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I would assume because they were built at the Pontiac Engine Assembly Plant, they would be the same.
Agree, but never say never right? Curious to know if all W72's were "OK-2" inspected & stamped? Anyone know for sure?

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Another good thread (but for 1977 mainly):

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Another good thread (but for 1977 mainly):

1977 Build Sheet Decode

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For Bob: Delco "Freedom" Battery included here

Excellent OEM Delco battery evolution thread w plenty of decal ideas & info http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=626352

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Here is an advertisement from December 1976. This one shows all of the "old" style batteries, and the then new Freedom battery.

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On a 77 can am the original battery would not have had caps
on it. It would have come with a flat top freedom battery. On my 79 Trans Am
which I show for points at POCI, I went through the hassle of having the correct
decals made which are sealed on both sides in clear plastic. I silicone them on the
top of a new flat top battery and when I change out the battery, I simply peel them off,
scrape the silicone off the back side and silicone them on the new battery. These stickers
wow the judges every time(the car scored 400/400 points) Here's a shot of my battery...

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Is WC, or X7, being made?
I just, got a 78 marti, another van nuys, from Nevada.. WS6 W72... for my oldest, just turned 15 last month...

The sticker kit has them all in, YA, YU, 403 and W72. I traded a guy fir a YU sticker. The 78 GM manual gas a page on the valve cover decals.

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So, kit will have X7 and WC?

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My 79W72 Formula appears to have had a label affixed to the end of the passenger valve cover. Does anyone know what Sticker might have been there originally? You can kind of see the outline of where it was in these two pictures:




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