[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by jdw_poncho

I may have to give Lil Jack some time test another year....

I'm... quitting my job, moving to the big city, bought a second house, starting on a new garage next March, getting married, and finishing my EE.

But, I am moving within 20 minutes of a racetrack...

Dude, you should approach life just like tuning a race car...one change at a time!

I kid, I kid...all the best to you, it all sounds very exciting.

[7T2]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

The second my motor comes off the dyno it is for sale......It won't make near 950.

why not?
will it not have the same parts as kelvins motor did?

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by 7T2

why not?
will it not have the same parts as kelvins motor did?

The Twister Heads don't flow near what Poe's Fusion heads do.Intake is different,Cam is very similar,this motor wont have a dry sump oil system.Im not running alcohol injection OR a alcohol carb.And it will have 1.8 rockers instead of 1.85's .....so less lift.Callies rods instead of GRP's,don't think you can call it same parts.
So no I don't think it will make 950. I'm hoping to make a tad over 900.


........Jim,I practically gave away my MR-1,and billet crank,And I'm waiting on someone to make a decision on the my Fusion heads and valvetrain.

[Jeff Kinsler]

36) no cv-1 to cv-1 love anymore in 2015.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

The Twister Heads don't flow near what Poe's Fusion heads do.Intake is different,Cam is very similar,this motor wont have a dry sump oil system.Im not running alcohol injection OR a alcohol carb.And it will have 1.8 rockers instead of 1.85's .....so less lift.Callies rods instead of GRP's,don't think you can call it same parts.
So no I don't think it will make 950. I'm hoping to make a tad over 900.


........Jim,I practically gave away my MR-1,and billet crank,And I'm waiting on someone to make a decision on the my Fusion heads and valvetrain.

I need to dive my port a name.....

How about the twisted fury fusion cvstomper?

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

36) no cv-1 to cv-1 love anymore in 2015.

That's gross.

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by mike leech

I need to dive my port a name.....

How about the twisted fury fusion cvstomper?

What ever floats your boat Mike. Hope you have a Merry Christmas I wish you and your family the best this holiday season!

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

What ever floats your boat Mike. Hope you have a Merry Christmas I wish you and your family the best this holiday season!

You too! you know i'm jokin

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by mike leech

You too! you know i'm jokin

I laughed out loud when I read that! I figured you owe'd me one after my head wars comment in your deer hunting thread last year.

[Kelvin Poe]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

The Twister Heads don't flow near what Poe's Fusion heads do.Intake is different,Cam is very similar,this motor wont have a dry sump oil system.Im not running alcohol injection OR a alcohol carb.And it will have 1.8 rockers instead of 1.85's .....so less lift.Callies rods instead of GRP's,don't think you can call it same parts.
So no I don't think it will make 950. I'm hoping to make a tad over 900.

Jason,
I think you might be surprised at what hp you end up making. A dry sump will make very little, if any more power then a good vacuum pump set up and the same with alcohol vs. gas. With both of my engines switching from gas to alcohol on the dyno, made very little difference in hp, maybe 2 or 3 hp. Torque was up on alcohol, but hp was a wash. The fact that you're running a .043 ring pack and have an iron block should more then make up those differences.

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by Kelvin Poe

Jason,
I think you might be surprised at what hp you end up making. A dry sump will make very little, if any more power then a good vacuum pump set up and the same with alcohol vs. gas. With both of my engines switching from gas to alcohol on the dyno, made very little difference in hp, maybe 2 or 3 hp. Torque was up on alcohol, but hp was a wash. The fact that you're running a .043 ring pack and have an iron block should more then make up those differences.

Sweet! Thanks Kelvin! Since you brought up pistons that reminded me I'll have less compression too.

But thanks for the vote of confidence!

I forgot it had a .043 ring pack....... So I'll freshen the thing at the end of the season and still have a. $15k price tag on it.........unless someone offers me $12k for it not freshened.

[bankbook]

Back to topic.

Thanks for being so Kind Jeff!
Damn job has me traveling so much
I think I might rent out the car to Brian just to know it runs!

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

Sweet! Thanks Kelvin! Since you brought up pistons that reminded me I'll have less compression too.

But thanks for the vote of confidence!

I forgot it had a .043 ring pack....... So I'll freshen the thing at the end of the season and still have a. $15k price tag on it.........unless someone offers me $12k for it not freshened.

It sounds like your mind is pretty well made up.

Here is the dyno sheet on Kelvins motor when he realized a cylinder was out of round. Same Ross pistons as yours, flat tops with a smaller bore. This was also before he added the dry sump.

These pulls showed 945 HP without having the motor sealed.

I think it's safe to say you have the parts to make 950 HP keeping the motor under 7500 RPM.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

It sounds like your mind is pretty well made up.

Here is the dyno sheet on Kelvins motor when he realized a cylinder was out of round. Same Ross pistons as yours, flat tops with a smaller bore. This was also before he added the dry sump.

These pulls showed 945 HP without having the motor sealed.

I think it's safe to say you have the parts to make 950 HP keeping the motor under 7500 RPM.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

But I'll be using the Ported low rise intake...........The tunnel ram isn't mine to sell...so I thought it made sense to dyno the motor with the intake that will go with the motor.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

But I'll be using the Ported low rise intake...........The tunnel ram isn't mine to sell...so I thought it made sense to dyno the motor with the intake that will go with the motor.

Gotcha.

I think making anywhere north of 900 HP with the low rise manifold would be a stretch.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420