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Old 12-18-2014, 03:39 PM
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Air bags became mandatory in 90 (drivers side only) but I think for a few years car companies could opt out if the put in those f*** door mounted automatic seatbelts.

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Old 12-18-2014, 03:51 PM
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They may have been a pain in the a#$ but I know they saved my life once. I was run off the road by a tractor trailor and only lived becasue of the automatic belt across my chest. I have religiously used seat belts ever since that day in '93.

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Air bags became mandatory in 90 (drivers side only) but I think for a few years car companies could opt out if the put in those f*** door mounted automatic seatbelts.

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I had a 90ish Olds Cutlass 4 door that had them, driving with the window down on the highway left you with a black and blue ear from the slapping of the belt. God I was missing back then the wide open feel of a good old 60's hardtop with no posts to stir up the wind.

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It's a 59 but it gives you a feel of the open airiness of sweeping down an interstate, all the windows down at 70+mph and having a quiet conversation at the same time. Try that in any new car, sounds and feel like an air canon machine gun is shooting at you!
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Old 12-18-2014, 05:18 PM
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My 70 came with front shoulder belts, but they had ben cut off by the previous owner sometime before I bought it in 1979. During my first restoration in the early 90s, I had the shoulder belts redone. There is a much more secure feeling when cruising with the top down (or up for that matter) and having those shoulder belts across the chest.

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Old 12-18-2014, 05:29 PM
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My LeMans and GTO verts have them but my Bonnie and bird don't. Thinking of getting them but they are very pricey!! something like $450 for front set on one car. Plus no one has the right color for my Bonnie (69 only mustard gold)

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My '69 came with them but someone removed them along the way. I know it came with them because the car has the little buckle keepers on the lower rear seat scuttling. I was going to get replacements from SSnakeOyl. I was planning to cut the buckle and baseplate out of a junk yard car to send along to have the belts run thru and stitched. My other option is to just cut the tags off a set of belts and get new belt material at the proper length and then take them to a local shop with a heavy duty needle to have the ends sewn together and the tags stitched on. I think the overall belt length is like 72"

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Old 12-19-2014, 12:07 AM
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Heres my 67 bonny with the new shoes
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Old 12-19-2014, 11:04 AM
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Nice! I like Pontiac Rally wheels, but similar period correct wheels of a reasonable size look pretty good too. Are they 16 inch? I don't like it when the wheels are so large that they are out of proportion with the rest of the car, but I think you hit that one about right.

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Old 12-19-2014, 12:49 PM
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225/60/16 , 16x7 w/4" bs.

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Heres two more in the sun, you can see the tires in the wells a bit better.
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Heres my 67 bonny with the new shoes
Looks GR8!

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Old 12-19-2014, 11:39 PM
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Not mine; but surprised - unless I missed it - this months '67 GP Feature car hasn't yet been posted. Apologies if it has been, and I'd appreciate the link to this one. Thxs...
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:21 PM
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Heres my 67 bonny with the new shoes
That looks 100% better. Excellent choice. Its amazing what a nice set of wheels and tires will do for a car.

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Loosing those fender skirts was a major improvement as well. No need to cover up nice wheels. I got the rear bumped up an inch so the wheel well shows the entire rim. Air bag in coil set up. Cheap.......easy.......done. Sits even at all corners now.

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Old 12-29-2014, 06:56 PM
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The 70 woodgrain on the A/C control also has transparent wording for the various modes that also light up at night, so there is a lot more involved than just slapping on new woodgrain vinyl. All the 70 models had the metal badge on the passenger side insert, for Bonneville, Catalina and Executive. I have never seen a difference in the woodgrain between the B body models, although I never really examined them. The passenger side pieces are all the same except for the model badge. The 69 right side piece looks about the same too, except as mentioned, the model in printed on the woodgrain vinyl.
I'll add my 2 cents worth ....just read some of the posts here. There is a difference in the wood grain appliques (sp?) between a Bonneville and Catalina/Executice models. The Bonneville had the Burled Walnut look on both the Passenger side insert and the driver dash area. Catalina/Executives had a more horizontal pattern to the wood grain and it was a little lighter. My 70 SW started life as an Executive. I picked the passenger side insert from a Bonneville I parted out and found a NOS drivers Bezel somewhere on ebay. Hardest to find was the A/C control ...finally found one ...and if you throw enough $$ at something sometimes you'll be the highest bidder. Attached is a picture of my drivers side bezel before I found the a NOS A/C unit ...Difference is pretty noticable.

A friend of mine had a roll of the Burled Walnut awhile back ...so there was a way to buy it. Have not looked any up recently.
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:28 PM
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I haven't seen a thread for this. If so please delete.

Here's mine.

What size tires are on your car in this picture?

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My 70 came with front shoulder belts, but they had ben cut off by the previous owner sometime before I bought it in 1979. During my first restoration in the early 90s, I had the shoulder belts redone. There is a much more secure feeling when cruising with the top down (or up for that matter) and having those shoulder belts across the chest.
Dave that's interesting , my 70 doesn't have them and there are no signs of them ever existing , were they an option ? My 69 Firebird hardtop has them as well as the 68 skylark hardtop .

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What size tires are on your car in this picture?
225/70R14

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225/70R14
Thanks for the reply. How do you like that size as far as looks and handling? Do you have a pic of your car taken from the side showing how the tires fill the wheel wells?

I've got 14" 8 lug wheels and was looking for the tire size that looks good on a 67 GP.

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