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Old 07-09-2015, 10:33 PM
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If Fulton goes faster than he ever did with his eheads the point will be made in my opinion..
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Agree, the POINT BEING that the sum of ALL of the changes brought the new result, not just a set of different aluminum castings.

Ever heard the engineering concept, make ONE change to compare the actual difference in performance. Looks like you made several.

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IMO the point would be it takes a helluva lot of work to out run E heads.

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Old 07-09-2015, 11:17 PM
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:28 PM
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What does 25000 posts helping people (on the majority of them) have to do with a 'measuring contest' at Norwalk, Stan? Sounds like an attack because sadly you could not come up with anything better.

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You are just so transparent.

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Old 07-10-2015, 01:23 PM
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IMO the point would be it takes a helluva lot of work to out run E heads.
Those old dinousor E heads are hard to beat for the money.

The only bad part I found was when you start spraying them 400-500 worth of nitrous you have to put head gaskets on them about 20-25 passes.

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Old 07-10-2015, 03:02 PM
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You are just so transparent.

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Well Thank you Very Much for the nice compliment, Stan.

Transparency, as used in science, ENGINEERING, business, the humanities and in other social contexts, implies OPENNESS, COMMUNICATION, and ACCOUNTABILITY.

Transparency is operating in such a way that it is easy for others to see what actions are performed.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bein...utf-8&oe=utf-8

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"Being transparent is a very good trait, one of the best in my opinion."

"It means that you show everybody yourself without holding back, and you're willing to be truthful and real with everybody."

"People who aren't transparent, are sneaky, secretive, and normally not liked as well."
(so that would fit some on this board, for sure, you know who you are, don't you).

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...5135439AAP3aWs

Again, Thanks Stan, When you made that post I know that is exactly what you were thinking when you posted that compliment.
It really helps to research those words beforehand.

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Well Thank you Very Much for the nice compliment, Stan.

Transparency, as used in science, ENGINEERING, business, the humanities and in other social contexts, implies OPENNESS, COMMUNICATION, and ACCOUNTABILITY.

Transparency is operating in such a way that it is easy for others to see what actions are performed.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bein...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Quote by others in the link below:

"Being transparent is a very good trait, one of the best in my opinion."

"It means that you show everybody yourself without holding back, and you're willing to be truthful and real with everybody."

"People who aren't transparent, are sneaky, secretive, and normally not liked as well."
(so that would fit some on this board, for sure, you know who you are, don't you).

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...5135439AAP3aWs

Again, Thanks Stan, When you made that post I know that is exactly what you were thinking when you posted that compliment.
It really helps to research those words beforehand.

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Tom,
Yes, transparent can be a very good, but it can also be a very bad. Judging by some posts following one of my posts, I believe that others have seen what I have seen.

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Those old dinousor E heads are hard to beat for the money.

The only bad part I found was when you start spraying them 400-500 worth of nitrous you have to put head gaskets on them about 20-25 passes.
That was mentioned years ago but denied by a few people, must not have liked the messengers.

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Old 07-10-2015, 05:33 PM
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Those old dinousor E heads are hard to beat for the money.

The only bad part I found was when you start spraying them 400-500 worth of nitrous you have to put head gaskets on them about 20-25 passes.
I don't think Ed McGuinn changes his every 20-25. I'll ask him tomorrow were racing at Quaker City in Pa.

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All I know is that after half a year and 20 pages if this race doesn't come off there will be a lot of disappointed people.

This has been like waiting for the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Peter Pan all rolled into one!

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All I know is that after half a year and 20 pages if this race doesn't come off there will be a lot of disappointed people.

This has been like waiting for the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and Peter Pan all rolled into one!

I can give two chits, have my own program to worry about...

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I don't think Ed McGuinn changes his every 20-25. I'll ask him tomorrow were racing at Quaker City in Pa.
Yea report back.

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Yes, transparent can be a very good, but it can also be a very bad. Judging by some posts following one of my posts, I believe that others have seen what I have seen.

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What I have seen Stan, in a whole bunch of people who really do not have a clue how real engineering works, come to the forum just to socialize, cast aspersions (make a rude and insulting remark), on people who actually do know how engineering works, in general.

These people have no "defense" for their "lack of performance" in a given area over years of time so they attack at every opportunity the messenger who is asking the questions.

I rarely follow your posts (unless they are directed at me) as they seem to rely on outdated information that has been found to have serious engineering errors.

I also notice that you have a history of switching sides (as in the Mike Leech Dyno testing thread), when it fits your agenda.

So in this case, I took your attack and replied with a compliment. But you could not let it go so you posted another shot.

So again, Stan, why don't you go play somewhere else, vs against me, as your performance in the sparing contests (as well as your associates performance) is sorely lacking.

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Well over 100 passes on the last set. Changed them late last fall along with a very light head cleanup. No issues since. Straight surfaces, Cometics and spot on tune is the key.

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What I have seen Stan, in a whole bunch of people who really do not have a clue how real engineering works, come to the forum just to socialize, cast aspersions (make a rude and insulting remark), on people who actually do know how engineering works, in general.

These people have no "defense" for their "lack of performance" in a given area over years of time so they attack at every opportunity the messenger who is asking the questions.

I rarely follow your posts (unless they are directed at me) as they seem to rely on outdated information that has been found to have serious engineering errors.

I also notice that you have a history of switching sides (as in the Mike Leech Dyno testing thread), when it fits your agenda.

So in this case, I took your attack and replied with a compliment. But you could not let it go so you posted another shot.

So again, Stan, why don't you go play somewhere else, vs against me, as your performance in the sparing contests (as well as your associates performance) is sorely lacking.

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Tom,
How can I switch sides? I do not have a side and just reply based on what is posted. What side are you on?

The rest of that #$%^&**(()))(*&&^%$, I will just ignore as this back and forth is going nowhere.

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Well over 100 passes on the last set. Changed them late last fall along with a very light head cleanup. No issues since. Straight surfaces, Cometics and spot on tune is the key.
Bingo... obviously you keep a comfortable distance from the egde of detonation/pre-ignition. Obviously more to it than just tune when it comes to the mechanics of it, but tune is a huge factor.
I'll add its not just gaskets you hurt, that tune can save or hurt things below the pistons.
Certainly not an E-head only issue.

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IMO the point would be it takes a helluva lot of work to out run E heads.
... no it doesn't ...

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What I have seen Stan, in a whole bunch of people who really do not have a clue how real engineering works, come to the forum just to socialize, cast aspersions (make a rude and insulting remark), on people who actually do know how engineering works, in general.

These people have no "defense" for their "lack of performance" in a given area over years of time so they attack at every opportunity the messenger who is asking the questions.

I rarely follow your posts (unless they are directed at me) as they seem to rely on outdated information that has been found to have serious engineering errors.

I also notice that you have a history of switching sides (as in the Mike Leech Dyno testing thread), when it fits your agenda.

So in this case, I took your attack and replied with a compliment. But you could not let it go so you posted another shot.

So again, Stan, why don't you go play somewhere else, vs against me, as your performance in the sparing contests (as well as your associates performance) is sorely lacking.

Tom V.
... Engineering ??? ... lmao, what'a clown, you can't even remember to ensure correct valve springs on a high boost application and you wanna' lecture Stan ?? ... about engineering nonsense ?? ...

... how bout' YOU stop deflecting and answer my questions Tom ??? ... and you know which one i mean .. genius ...

... 25k is getting close !!! ... do you get an award for being the biggest blowhard on the entire forum ?? ...
... if so, I'm voting TOM VAUGHT ALL THE WAY !!! ...


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Yea report back.

I like that car.
Just talked with Ed, 400 shot with no head gasket issues last year.

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