[Jim Zeek]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Lighter car will always be better.......takes less HP to go quick

GTO George

Kinda like.............ah.....nevermind

[v869tr6]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Lighter car will always be better.......takes less HP to go quick also less breakage BUT a more streetable looking car with more HP would be WAY cooler!


GTO George

But the crazy part is that Pro mods are making it for a full 5 days and 1000+ miles on Dragweek. So what's a street car? With a cooling system, Big Chief could likely cruise the Crowmod nearly anywhere.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Jim Zeek

Kinda like.............ah.....nevermind

Did you say something...........NOPE!


GTO George

[cdrookie]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

A bigger engine and better heads would give Chief all the power (500-1,000hp more) he would need. A Pro Mod car is cool but over kill for the street racing reality show.


GTO George

HP isn't the issue, everyone on the show isn't using all the HP they can produce.

[455rebel]

Anybody c the show on last night?,it was street racing in chatanooga tn.
It was real driven street cars, not trailer cars that aren't really street cars.
Can't remember the name but real street cars!

[cdrookie]

ya, it sucked. red devil racers

[JSPONT]

Originally Posted by v869tr6

But the crazy part is that Pro mods are making it for a full 5 days and 1000+ miles on Dragweek. So what's a street car? With a cooling system, Big Chief could likely cruise the Crowmod nearly anywhere.

I feel if you do not have a tranny tunnel, wipers, and heat/defrosters it's not a street car, its a race car on the street.
Those guys are in a different class than most though.
I am friends with Glen Hunter (red 56 Chevy, twin turbos this year) he drives that thing everywhere, even into Manhattan!! Car ran 7.80 this year, he will be faster next year. He is all over Long Island with it.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by v869tr6

But the crazy part is that Pro mods are making it for a full 5 days and 1000+ miles on Dragweek. So what's a street car? With a cooling system, Big Chief could likely cruise the Crowmod nearly anywhere.

I can cruise my car too BUT that don't make it a street car!



GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by cdrookie

HP isn't the issue, everyone on the show isn't using all the HP they can produce.

So you're saying Kye Kelly is a better tuner then Justin?



GTO George

[mgarblik]

It seems logical that the definition for a "street car" would be to "meet the minimum requirements for a state license plate to hang on the car". In Ohio, this would mean one brake light, and wipers but not a heater. Radio and heater delete options were available well into the mid 1960's on many cars. To me, if I had a pro-mod type car and wanted to drive it on the street and "call it" a street car, I would scour the minimum requirements of various states until I found a really simple set of rules I could make the car fit and get a set of plates. With no standard at all, a top fuel dragster sitting on a "street" can be called a street car.

[JSPONT]

A real street car should have to pull into a gas station fill up and run a full pass all out. E85 is fair. If you have to have 2 tanks with "race fuel" in one to race, you don't have a street car, you have a race car on the street.

[Elarson]

A couple of random comments:

The name of the show is "Street Outlaws". Outlaw means no rules, no requirements, no conformance.

Justin has found a format where he can have a good time, do what he wants and be wildly successful with a real Pontiac engine. At PRI, he drew a much larger crowd than John Force. What could be better?

I for one, am really thrilled with what a true Pontiac guy has achieved.

Eric

[GTO Dan]

S/O are "street raced cars" not street cars. It is just about the racing surface and rules agreed to by the two drivers that are lined up. This is the way its been for money street racing for as long as I can remember (dating back to the early 80s).

[wreckmastr]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

S/O are "street raced cars" not street cars. It is just about the racing surface and rules agreed to by the two drivers that are lined up. This is the way its been for money street racing for as long as I can remember (dating back to the early 80s).

^^^^ Explained perfectly! It has nothing to do with be street legal.

[JSPONT]

Originally Posted by GTO Dan

S/O are "street raced cars" not street cars. It is just about the racing surface and rules agreed to by the two drivers that are lined up. This is the way its been for money street racing for as long as I can remember (dating back to the early 80s).

No I agree its a no holds bar, I think Big Chief did what he had to do to stay on top.
What I am saying if you are going to classify a car, and its just my .02, a street car is something you can drive to work, the store, anywhere you want, pull into any gas station and keep going.
Lets face it there are a ton of race cars on the street. If you have a bird cage around your head, YOU ARE IN A RACE CAR.
Don't get me wrong, I love seeing that stuff, love watching street racing. Most street racing near me is race cars on the street no matter what b.s. the guys who own the car are saying.
This is where the turbo/supercharged cars have an advantage. low compression pump gas or e85 , real drivable and real fast.

[cdrookie]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

So you're saying Kye Kelly is a better tuner then Justin?



GTO George

i don't even know if Kye Kelly tunes his own car???? but i think even chief will agree that he would never beat Kye with his 72. i don't think it's the driver or tune, i think it's the cars themselves. like they said, it's hard to compete when you're giving up 800+pds right off the bat.

but i'm sure you know of some stock suspension 3500pd cars that would smoke both of them....

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by cdrookie

but i'm sure you knows of some stock suspension 3500pd cars that would smoke both of them....

Nope, sorry I'm only into race car! I was just trying to make a point, that's all. No Buggie!


GTO George

[chiefbigb]

I seriously doubt there is 800 pounds difference. The crow was bad ass. Pretty much a complete tube chassis with light weight body panels. Steel roof and quarters. By most standards a race car only but run on the street. It had stock body dimentions and if the wheel base was stretched it was very little. The car looked like a race version of the factory car. To me that is was what made it so cool. How many street racers have a pro mod to compete with him? Very few. To get a large group of them together may be tough to. I wish the people involved the best of luck and be safe. Im sure the writers will keep it interesting.

[JSPONT]

Originally Posted by chiefbigb

I seriously doubt there is 800 pounds difference. The crow was bad ass. Pretty much a complete tube chassis with light weight body panels. Steel roof and quarters. By most standards a race car only but run on the street. It had stock body dimentions and if the wheel base was stretched it was very little. The car looked like a race version of the factory car. To me that is was what made it so cool. How many street racers have a pro mod to compete with him? Very few. To get a large group of them together may be tough to. I wish the people involved the best of luck and be safe. Im sure the writers will keep it interesting.

It's not 800 lighter its 1000 lbs lighter. I can not see why Chief would lie about that, hell if was going to lie he should say it was heavier!

[Elarson]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

It's not 800 lighter its 1000 lbs lighter. I can not see why Chief would lie about that, hell if was going to lie he should say it was heavier!

A separate, exceptionally knowledgeable source tells me the same thing (1000 lbs).

Eric