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Old 02-16-2016, 11:54 PM
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Wasn't trying to come off critical, I'd like to know what the trim override actually did on this car, or if in that respect, George is again off on his UPC decoding.
Not at all OPH, none taken, welcome your input on this as well as everybody else's thanks. I am travelling to the car and hope to have further pics in a day or so. No t-top, no radio, no AC, 4-speed. She is my kind of W72 so I couldn't pass it up.

Perhaps Carl S can help me track down the original owner and get an answer? Stranger things have happened

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I stopped to look at a Solar Gold T/A back in the early 90's. It was in super rough shape, but it was a Gold Anniversary the owner said to me. The PO told him that. Lol. I tried to set the owner straight, I told him he didn't even have a Y 88, but it's hard to correct BS through the years sometimes. Silver in '79, does it make sense to have a Gold anniversary in 1978. He saw the light.

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Back it the 80's when my buddy had the Y88 that I own today, we all thought it was a golden anniversary edition. Not sure where it started but it had so many gold appointments we knew it was something limited & special. Gold anniversary just sounded cool I suppose. I didn't learn Y88, or S/E until the mid 90's.

While I am partial to the TA/TA, I thought there were butt ugly back then. Never liked the wheels or the silver on silver. I have since changed my mind. Only saw one before the internet came about. It was one for sale on the edge of town & I remember looking in the windows & wondering why all the silver? The house it was for sale at has been torn down & there is a convenience store there now.
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SO SOMEBODY REALLY WANTED TO PUT A BLACK INTERIOR IN THIS CAR. HEADLINER, VISORS, INTERIOR WINDSHIELD PILLAR COVERS, QUARTER REAR INTERIOR PANELS, ALL BLACK NOW.




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I'm not sure the ZP2 code is that unusual on Canadian docs. I've seen several 78-79 Special Edition Canadian docs that have the ZP2 code, yet they had regular interiors (like this 62B example above). I believe many dealers that placed orders for customers (customer ordered) checked off the ZP2 box just to be safe, which sort of told corporate that "we know what we're ordering, don't change it", even if it was standard Trans Am recommended color combo.

Of course, if it were a non-standard, non-recommended color combo (like Solar Gold with a red interior), the ZP2 code would be followed, but I think many dealers simply checked off ZP2 to be safe.

I've never seen ZP2 on a build sheet. If someone has an example, I would love to see it.

Here's a portion of a 1978 Order Form showing the ZP2 option.

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What does the 'TN.' mean after the WS4 on cowl tag?


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I think the period was throwing me.


It's for TAN, why they didn't use all 3 of the letters?
They used abbreviations for the colors because they were longer than 3 spaces, but TN. for tan?
(the period taking up the 3rd space)


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Good stuff!

For conversation dunno what the "TN." represents...not the interior IMHO - but I could be wrong!

Reason: "62B" ='"Dark Camel Tan" "trim color and material for the car" according to my on hand info...

To the owner: My previous post indicating "possible" odd special ordered two-tone interior...even if it was, the dash and glove box door color would color match (all same color)...prolly obvious but never know some lurker reading this thread showing up at Nats and/or local show w "rare" alternate color glove door to go along with "factory" Buick engine decal on his 77, 78, 79 Formula for example!

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The 'TN.' would be the color of the steering column, etc.
The 62B is for the seats etc.

I had never seen the tan on the cowl tag before I guess.



Seen BLK, BUE, CAR, etc


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The 'TN.' would be the color of the steering column, etc.
The 62B is for the seats etc.


I had never seen the tan on the cowl tag before I guess.



Seen BLK, BUE, CAR, etc

Interesting...as for 1978 weren't ALL "except Y88" black w black column and wheels? Understand starting in '79 colors matched etc.

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No.

The steering wheel maybe, that may have been 79.



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The steering wheel maybe, that may have been 79.


Huh? For 1978 only Y88 column and steering wheel available other than black in Y88 as tan, right?

How about Red Bird, Sky Birds?

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Car has a black TILT column, but TILT is NOT on the Canada GM docs as an option.

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Car has a black TILT column, but TILT is NOT on the Canada GM docs as an option.
Wondering if possible car was a theft recovery? Noted the rear uppers were '79 Hobnail custom seating and lowers were standard vinyl black.

Could explain interior changeout...was common for these cars to be interior stripped out by "midnight auto supply" along with T-Tops, etc. Could explain tilt colum replacement also...

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Wow, talk about a mix-matched interior! What has me surprised is that it looks like somebody painted the steel dash black. That's not too easy to do with the vinyl dash and windshield in place! Everything else does not surprise me too much. My car has had everything swapped out except for the dash pad and gauges. Had a pretty nice custom wood backed headliner too!

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more pics - louvers and Canadian Tire "accessories" will be hitting the dumpster shortly
Don't pitch the louvers. There are many people looking for those.

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Retrieval of a factory build sheet ought to confirm 62 as the color of interior components. know I pulled 3 clean copies out of my '80 SE, before mothballing the car. With the front seats, rear seat, and door panels swapped out over time on this '78, it still should have a buildsheet copy on top of the gas tank. Crossing my fingers for you

On the ZP2 code, as it had been used, it was a an override to match stock code interiors with exterior colors that the combination would look "funky", not to combine aspects of different interiors. Having tried to do the latter with the help from zone reps on an extremely early special ordere and priority1 sold T/A, just find it hard to fathom a combination of colors between the dash and seats, something else has to be going on.

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Wow, talk about a mix-matched interior! What has me surprised is that it looks like somebody painted the steel dash black. That's not too easy to do with the vinyl dash and windshield in place! Everything else does not surprise me too much. My car has had everything swapped out except for the dash pad and gauges. Had a pretty nice custom wood backed headliner too!
I've done it, can't even tell. But if you watched my backyard skills, you would be nervous. Lol

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