[Garry Sr]

If I took my Formula to the casino with title the Indians would probably own it before the concert even started....

[Rich-Tripower]

Originally Posted by sleddog

LOL ....

And he doesn't compare to Lemmy in my book. Not that their not good, and they do have a Pontiac- but just saying.

Do you really suppose the car belongs to one of them or is it just a prop for the photo?

[U47]

Originally Posted by Rich-Tripower

Never heard of them but I really want to tell that guy in the front to get his ass off the paint!

Thanks for the link. Their dress, general appearance, and music indicates they are locked into a 30 year old time warp.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Cool WWII aircraft engine view in Brit or OZ scrap yard?

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by Alvin

Those are P-51 Mustangs before they became Mustangs as we know them. It was known as the A-36 Apache at the time and was mostly a ground attack plane.
It had the same Allison V-12 engine as the P-40 in the earlier picture.
The soon-to-be marriage of this American built and designed airframe with the British built and designed Rolls Royce-Merlin engine made it into arguably the best all around prop driven warplane in history..
P-51-B and -D models shown below... Notice that the intake scoop has moved from above to below the spinner with the engine change.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Those are P-51 Mustangs before they became Mustangs as we know them. It was known as the A-36 Apache at the time and was mostly a ground attack plane.
It had the same Allison V-12 engine as the P-40 in the earlier picture.
The soon-to-be marriage of this American built and designed airframe with the British built and designed Rolls Royce-Merlin engine made it into arguably the best all around prop driven warplane in history..
P-51-B and -D models shown below... Notice that the intake scoop has moved from above to below the spinner with the engine change.

Thx Greg! I figured if I posted the pic someone would know and comment on what they were...I did notice the above engine intake on the B&W photo...

[U47]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Those are P-51 Mustangs before they became Mustangs as we know them. It was known as the A-36 Apache at the time and was mostly a ground attack plane.
It had the same Allison V-12 engine as the P-40 in the earlier picture.
The soon-to-be marriage of this American built and designed airframe with the British built and designed Rolls Royce-Merlin engine made it into arguably the best all around prop driven warplane in history..
P-51-B and -D models shown below... Notice that the intake scoop has moved from above to below the spinner with the engine change.

Arguably for sure. I would rather be in a F4U or if I wanted to go really fast a DO335.
http://www.warbirdradio.com/wp-conte...zip2/m_127.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/media/...-wp.30272/full

[Alvin]

Check this out....
Image titled "Captured P-47 Thunderbolt T9-LK from Zirkus Rosarius Goettingen Germany"



Full size image link HERE

[MikeNoun]

Yep, the Germans did that a lot.

[camerjeff]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Those are P-51 Mustangs before they became Mustangs as we know them. It was known as the A-36 Apache at the time and was mostly a ground attack plane.
It had the same Allison V-12 engine as the P-40 in the earlier picture.
The soon-to-be marriage of this American built and designed airframe with the British built and designed Rolls Royce-Merlin engine made it into arguably the best all around prop driven warplane in history..
P-51-B and -D models shown below... Notice that the intake scoop has moved from above to below the spinner with the engine change.

I can't see any Bomb Racks under the wings so I would think they are not A-36's but
P-51A's The Army A/F did use about 1000 of that model in China

[MikeNoun]

Originally Posted by Alvin

In regards to this photo, yes, that's a P-40.

An easy clue here is that the P-51A or P-51B did not have a sliding canopy, where as the P-40 did.


P-40


P-51B

Mike

[camerjeff]

One from the Space Age

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by camerjeff

I can't see any Bomb Racks under the wings so I would think they are not A-36's but
P-51A's The Army A/F did use about 1000 of that model in China

Yeah, I started to go into the 'maybe they are A models' but I'd already typed enough...lol. Good observation on the bomb racks. The only clue I would have known to look for would have been dive brakes but not visible in that pic.

U47, yes, there are about a half dozen planes that need to be in that 'best' conversation..... Prop driven aircraft design was at it's very peak during those years..

[U47]

Originally Posted by Greg Reid

Yeah, I started to go into the 'maybe they are A models' but I'd already typed enough...lol. Good observation on the bomb racks. The only clue I would have known to look for would have been dive brakes but not visible in that pic.

U47, yes, there are about a half dozen planes that need to be in that 'best' conversation..... Prop driven aircraft design was at it's very peak during those years..

Yes, FW 190 long nose, F-8 Bearcat, Sea Fury, Hawker Tempest & Typhoon.
P-51 look-a-like, the Yak 3.

Funny Harley Earl gets excited seeing the twin booms on P-38 and incorporates them into Cadillac tail fins of the late 40's to mid 60's, however P-38 is a old late 1930's design and first flown in Jan-1939. It was our best pre ww2 fighter that bested the P-40 and the F4F especially in the high altitude arena. It had about a 64 mph advantage in speed over them too.
But that DO335 and it's 474mph speed wow!
Dornier Do 335.svg



General characteristics
Crew: 1, pilot
Length: 13.85 m (45 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 13.8 m (45 ft 1 in)
Height: 4.55 m (15 ft)
Wing area: 38.5 m² (414 ft²)
Empty weight: 7,400 kg (16,314 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 9,600 kg (21,164 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Daimler-Benz DB 603A 12-cylinder inverted engines, 1,750 PS (1,287 kW, 1,726 hp) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 765 km/h (474 mph)
Service ceiling: 11,400 m (37,400 ft)

Armament

1 × 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 103 cannon (as forward engine-mounted Motorkanone)
2 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cowl-mount, synchronized autocannons
Up to 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) bombload

[Greg Reid]

U47, you'll probably enjoy this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZU03dmdFBc

[Alvin]

James Dean and his "'Lil Bastard" Porsche "before"



And "after" accident scene of his death from t-bone collison by full size '56 FORD station-wagon

[MikeNoun]

The Monaco Grand Prix in the 60's.

[Jeff Hamlin]

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Alvin

James Dean and his "'Lil Bastard" Porsche "before"



And "after" accident scene of his death from t-bone collison by full size '56 FORD station-wagon

Originally Posted by Jeff Hamlin

Thx for posting this Jeff...from your pic can see the Ford behind James Dean and the ride height and why he never had a chance after being t-boned by same type vehicle...

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

The Monaco Grand Prix in the 60's.

Besides the obvious dude by BP Signage Pole - Take a close look at all of the people standing in harms way - like guy in door opening, peeps behind flimsy wood-wire fence...and how about that flammable hay barrier? Yikes!

But "that's how we rolled back then!"