[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by olgoat1

Does anyone know if RA II GTO's ordered with an in dash tach from the factory would have received a 5200 rpm tach or a 5500 rpm tach? Was a 5500 rpm dash tach available in 1968 with steel blue face?

To answer your second question...
About a year ago there was a triple black '68 convertible Ram Air for sale online with an instrument cluster tach with 5500 redline. I have no idea if that is original or correct but it must be available somewhere. That car is the early Ram Air model that many refer to as RAI.

I would like to know myself what is the correct redline for the tachs on these cars. Maybe someone knows of a documented survivor car that has a tach and can post a photo.

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[muscle_collector]

all of the ra2 cars I have owned have had the 5100 or 5200 redline tachs including the hood tach

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by muscle_collector

all of the ra2 cars I have owned have had the 5100 or 5200 redline tachs including the hood tach

Excellent. Thanks for the info. My hood tach is 5100 so that it what I was planning on using when it gets restored.

[1oldgoat]

I have another car for the list. It's not mine but sure wish it was! I tried to PM BVZ but the PM folder is full.

[1969 Ram Air]

A friend of mine has a RAII GTO hardtop. Black on black, 4-speed, hideaways and a 4.33 rear.

[Half-Inch Stud]

Originally Posted by 1969 Ram Air

A friend of mine has a RAII GTO hardtop. Black on black, 4-speed, hideaways and a 4.33 rear.

on my bucket list....

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by 1oldgoat

I have another car for the list. It's not mine but sure wish it was! I tried to PM BVZ but the PM folder is full.

Is it the guy you met out at MCACN?

There was an original paint car out in Nebraska that I thought we were going to be adding, sadly not so.

[1oldgoat]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Is it the guy you met out at MCACN?

There was an original paint car out in Nebraska that I thought we were going to be adding, sadly not so.

Yes it is. I might be able to get him to send me a picture of the BHC.

[tomslik190]

I bought a blue 68 GTO back in 7/96 from a seller in Valley City OH. It had a '67 400/400 auto, with highway gears in a BOP rearend. It appeared to have a rough life, showing about 65,000 on the ODO. Hand written on the PHS info is "Your GTO is a RAM AIR II". Originally Verdoro Green, black interior, 4.33 rear. Even the original front bucket seats were gone. CBH attached. is this car on the list or is it one of the missing? Thank You!

[tomslik190]

Forgot to attach the CBH file

[The Boss]

From what I can tell your car is not on the list yet and would be the earliest one to date. It is right on the cusp however and your EUN is 6462 before mine.

Zone 8 is Cleveland Ohio but dealer 223 is unknown.

What's the status of the car now - do you still own it?

[tomslik190]

I still have it. It is now viper red, 455, 5 speed, 3.42. Pic is in my profile.

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[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by tomslik190

Forgot to attach the CBH file

Interesting that your BHC does not have the handwritten adjustment seen on the early Firebird RAII cars and my 5/27/68 car. EUN on my car is 48163 before yours.

5/24/68 is the earliest GTO BHC that I have seen as well. Would like to see BVZ do an invoice breakdown to confirm RAII. I did a quick tally on my end and I come up really close (off by $1.00). I used $37.50 for destination charges based on a window sticker posted earlier on a car with dealer 08-231.....Should be pretty close to the destination charge for this car so I would say the BHC adds up to a RAII car.



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[Diego]

Originally Posted by 1969 Ram Air

A friend of mine has a RAII GTO hardtop. Black on black, 4-speed, hideaways and a 4.33 rear.

Sounds like my friend's car out in ID.

[johnta1]

PurelyGTO68 wrote:

EUN on my car is 48163 before yours.

You mean yours is 'After' Tom's?

Tom, what is the date code on your cowl tag?
5C/5D?

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by johnta1

PurelyGTO68 wrote:


You mean yours is 'After' Tom's?

Tom, what is the date code on your cowl tag?
5C/5D?

The EUN listed on the BHC for my car is 655492. I guess the early engines were shipped out to the remote assembly plants a few weeks ahead of the changeover date?

I don't know of a lower EUN to appear on a verified deuce GTO. As far as I know, nobody has identified all the BHCs related to deuce GTOs like was done for the Firebirds. I would be interested to see the EUNs for the early deuce birds. (Although may be near impossible since some BHC had blanks in the EUN box...).

Prior to Tom's car....I haven't seen a BHC for any deuce GTO built during the week of 5/20/68 so I have wondered about the possibility that the magical 5/20/68 date was for the Firebird changeover and maybe the GTOs changed over to RAII the following Monday (5/27/68). However this recent BHC puts that idea to rest and we know at least one deuce GTO was built during the 5/20/68 week. Would still need someone like BVZ to break down the invoice to make sure but I am nearly sure this is a real RAII because we have at least 3 verified deuce GTO EUN that are lower than this car.

Has to be a RAII in my opinion...

FYI, Jim Mattison told me that my car is the earliest deuce vert goat that he knows of but I don't know if that means he just hasn't come across another BHC yet or if he has culled his records and compiled a list of all RAII GTOs. I believe such list exists for Firebirds but I am not sure about GTOs. If anyone has additional info, please share with us.

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[MikeNoun]

That's a RAII GTO. I've done several RAII Bird and RAII GTO window stickers.

BASE PRICE - 3101.00
DESTINATION - 36.50

347 - 400 4BBL RAM AIR II V8 ENGINE.................473.94
358 - 4-SPD CLOSE RATIO..................................184.31
361 - SAFE-T-TRACK DIFFERENTIAL-HD................. 63.19
382 - RADIO PUSH BUTTON................................ 61.09
414 - COVERS-HEADLAMP RETRACTABLE............... 52.66
444 - CLUSTER + TACHOMETER-RALLY GAUGE....... 84.26
453 - WHEELS-RALLY II.......................................84.26
621 - SPRINGS & SHOCKS-RIDE & HANDLING...........4.21

TOTAL - 4145.42

Equipped with 4.33 gears. Color is Verdoro Green with Black interior.

I have a few other RAII's that are not on the list, but the owners do not wish to be part of a registry, and I respect their privacy.

Mike

[johnta1]

The EUN listed on the BHC for my car is 655492.

Sorry was looking at the wrong BHC for Tom's car.

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by MikeNoun

That's a RAII GTO. I've done several RAII Bird and RAII GTO window stickers.

BASE PRICE - 3101.00
DESTINATION - 36.50

347 - 400 4BBL RAM AIR II V8 ENGINE.................473.94
358 - 4-SPD CLOSE RATIO..................................184.31
361 - SAFE-T-TRACK DIFFERENTIAL-HD................. 63.19
382 - RADIO PUSH BUTTON................................ 61.09
414 - COVERS-HEADLAMP RETRACTABLE............... 52.66
444 - CLUSTER + TACHOMETER-RALLY GAUGE....... 84.26
453 - WHEELS-RALLY II.......................................84.26
621 - SPRINGS & SHOCKS-RIDE & HANDLING...........4.21

TOTAL - 4145.42

Equipped with 4.33 gears. Color is Verdoro Green with Black interior.

I have a few other RAII's that are not on the list, but the owners do not wish to be part of a registry, and I respect their privacy.

Mike

Thanks for the breakdown. I came up with same info except I was using $37.50 for destination (which was a guess on my part...). I don't have any list or guide of the destination charges by zone/dealer. Is that available anywhere for download?

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[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Sorry was looking at the wrong BHC for Tom's car.

No apologies necessary John....It's super easy to get mixed up with all the cool and useful info posted in these threads.

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