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Old 09-15-2016, 11:29 PM
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DID THAT JUST HAPPEN????!!!!

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... They are all massive disappointments...
What are "they"? If you are talking about all Pontiac heads, I'm interested in hearing more details.

Edit: that came out sounding like I meant Bob & Frank's ALL-PONTIAC heads- that's NOT what I meant.

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Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons?
... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac?
... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967)
... or has a Pontiac born the same year as Jim Wangers? (1926}
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:09 AM
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... That would probably go to the SD 4 cylinder head..
I imagine that 99% of members viewing this thread aren't interested in a head that won't bolt to a traditional Pontiac block. Just sayin'.

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... or has a Pontiac born the same year as Jim Wangers? (1926}
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Old 09-16-2016, 02:14 AM
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Tom S- how much HP/c.i. have the Warp-6 heads made n/a?

[I'm allowed to post here; I made two passes on a dragstrip in the last 50 years...]

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Tony has a few race cars. He just doesn't drive them.

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Old 09-16-2016, 08:18 AM
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DID THAT JUST HAPPEN????!!!!
Yeah I couldn't resist. If he can't handle it that's his problem to resolve.

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Old 09-16-2016, 09:16 AM
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Lil jerk doesn't need this site.

He's posting on the tumbleweed board.

I can't participate there. The head moron banned me.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Old 09-16-2016, 09:44 AM
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I get you guys are excited about dicks performance, but to compare it with jacks it this point begs the question... Since they're not far off in weight, and within 50hp on motor, how much has each sprayed yet?

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It's possible one man knew something was off in his combination and decided to find it before the engine was damaged. Maybe the other party didn't see it coming.

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Old 09-16-2016, 10:38 AM
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What are "they"? If you are talking about all Pontiac heads, I'm interested in hearing more details.

Edit: that came out sounding like I meant Bob & Frank's ALL-PONTIAC heads- that's NOT what I meant.
Yes I was speaking about every Pontiac head I've ever had my hands on. Valve placement, spark plug location, available material. All things that are constant problem with every Pontiac heads ever worked on. It's frustrating when the given architecture would actually let you do something much better. It gets very costly when you have to pull seats and guides weld up combustion Chambers move guide locations re install new seats.
Im Really trying to have something that's good bang for the buck. And we could currently have that with multiple castings that are currently available. But nope ! I don't know what some of these guys are thinking when they designed this stuff. Frustrating.

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Old 09-16-2016, 10:44 AM
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Maybe you should design a new wish bang Pontiac head and get -6% on your return....

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Old 09-16-2016, 10:45 AM
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^TRUTH^ to Marcella post

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Old 09-16-2016, 10:51 AM
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Maybe you should design a new wish bang Pontiac head and get -6% on your return....
Or I can save myself some time and withdraw all the money out of my bank account and light it on fire.

Truth is I would gladly talk to some of these people that have castings and give them to valve locations and such for free just so I can have something to work with and not have my customers have to pay Fortune to have it be the best it could be.
I get that these people are up against stock bore size valve locations vs. Aftermarket block valve locations. But it shouldn't be a big deal to have two programs one for smallbore and one for large bore

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Old 09-16-2016, 10:54 AM
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Saying a particular head makes more power than a E head is like saying a grown man can beat up a child. It sure as hell should because the E head is barely worthy of being on a hot-rod much less a race car motor. And stiil .......EH@TFMF. Craziness
E head is almost a direct copy of a mildly ported Ram Air IV casting, every part will interchange directly including intake gaskets, try doing that with any other manufacturers race head vs. their OE counterpart. NHRA Pro Mod takes this to a whole new level with the billet 5.0 bore center stuff. Clean sheet race stuff. Even Pro Stock has to follow some OE architecture. Knife to a gunfight is an understatement: BB gun vs. cannon

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Funny how last week the chatter was how Big Chief can't compete with those E-Heads.

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Big chief has made some pretty good showings with those lowly E-heads but as far as your statement I think the problem is the fact he can't compete in "Promod" with the whole Pontiac Platform. The heads aren't even a blip on the screen because even if he bolted the best set of wiz bang CV-1 heads you guys could muster up he would still be an "also ran" in Promod...

On the street he already has more power than he can use....

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damn I cant wait till jack gets his car back out. I just cant wait!!!!

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Old 09-16-2016, 01:46 PM
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Jack,I posted the dyno sheet and the track numbers awhile back.I believe it was like 2.34 on the engine that was run 3 years ago.Tom

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Or I can save myself some time and withdraw all the money out of my bank account and light it on fire.

Truth is I would gladly talk to some of these people that have castings and give them to valve locations and such for free just so I can have something to work with and not have my customers have to pay Fortune to have it be the best it could be.
I get that these people are up against stock bore size valve locations vs. Aftermarket block valve locations. But it shouldn't be a big deal to have two programs one for smallbore and one for large bore

The bank account comment part, man you're right on the money there, ... But I have made an offer to you/crew that requires some extra work yes, but all things considered with that it works for both of us and would provide you with a platform to do exactly what you wish ...

... Not poking or prodding, I'm just saying ...

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Old 09-16-2016, 03:24 PM
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The bank account comment part, man you're right on the money there, ... But I have made an offer to you/crew that requires some extra work yes, but all things considered with that it works for both of us and would provide you with a platform to do exactly what you wish ...

... Not poking or prodding, I'm just saying ...

Got a set here now. Looked at it hard and reevaluated my thoughts on it. Seems like a tremendous amount of work and effort for pretty much a lateral move imo. If the customer wants to go down that road I'm certainly up for it and we can make it as good as it can be. But from where I'm standing it just kind of doesn't make sense. If you want to discuss I'm willing to get into extreme detail on what I see and think. No bashing, no negative agenda just honest opinion.

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Holy crap, hell has frozen over. Well done gentlemen!

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