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PAUL K · 09-20-2016, 07:47 PM

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For saying "you" I guess that means me...close enough to a name... you get another credit.
SO now im making up facts? Please share with everyone what "facts" I've made up! This should be interesting. Be sure to provide reference and dont forget any I acknowledge when I've got something wrong.

As to the questions you deflected... See posts 1013 1026 and 1034
The questions asked in those 3 posts.

All here in one post to save you from jumping page to page.

Seems like you're taking lessons from Gach and hoping you can cloud your posts till they get buried in new posts. Maybe he'll give you a good report card and a sticker.

Bruce, you are much better at computer stuff than me. I'll do my best to answer all your questions. You make facts up! You've mentioned more than once Fulton's CV1 combo went faster than his Gabby Eheads.... that is a lie! 100% made up! You stated that DF's CV1/Ehead stock block dyno test had EIC heads....another made up fact. You stated DF's heads have never been removed this year, TTB says they've had the pistons out on a freshen up and DF stated he's had piston issues.....looks like another fact you made up. You're constantly jumping to conclusions..... I make a post backing up TTB's claims and you are ready to fight because you think some how I am anti CV1....which isn't true at all. I'm all about the truth, which you are not unless the truth supports your beliefs.

If I was anti CV1 I would point out that DF ran 7.7 with his Ehead combo roughly six years ago. Fast forward with a new build and much better technology along with improved carburetors and a dry sump he has ran 7.6. I understand that is with less nitrous but we have no idea if the combination will respond to more nitrous favorably. I would also point out that he has a top notch chassis with big tires and only has Cosgrove's Ehead combination covered by a tenth or so and Cosgrove's chassis is leaf springs, Cal-track and smaller tires. Cosgrove's car is ten times more "street" than DF's car, I've seen both cars in person.. I would also point out that DF has Kinsler's much smaller cid Ehead combination covered by a tenth or so and Kinsler has a small tire, Cal-Track leaf spring suspension 1/8 mile car using a single four and plate ...not two fours and a dual fogger. But since I'm not a CV1 hater I won't mention the above.

I apologize to Cosgrove and Kinsler for mentioning their names but I didn't really see a way around it. Both their cars are bad azz and do the Pontiac community proud.

PAUL K · 09-20-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cgeise

Here is a different way to ask the question -- Have the CV1 OR 2 lived up to the projections that you and others were screaming about 7 years ago - saying they are better than an e-head is a pretty low bar to jump over as it is a 20 year old casting and without a doubt really a design that was made for the street -- so, has it reached the potential that you stated or believed it would, just a question no hate or other wise.

By chance would dragging Langer down the track be one of those goals mentioned seven years ago?

slowbird · 09-20-2016, 07:56 PM

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LiL Jack · 09-20-2016, 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=PAUL K;5632607][QUOTE=BruceWilkie;5632580]

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Originally Posted by PAUL K

Lets start here and get back to that^^^...

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1010

I followed with...
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1013

Before next reply to me paul posts this...
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1026

I respond to post 1026
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1034

Your response...
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1038

My reply...
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1091

pauls reply.(note still no answer to the question in post 1034^^^)
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1092

paul additionaly says...

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...postcount=1099

Bruce, you are much better at computer stuff than me. I'll do my best to answer all your questions. You make facts up! You've mentioned more than once Fulton's CV1 combo went faster than his Gabby Eheads.... that is a lie! 100% made up! You stated that DF's CV1/Ehead stock block dyno test had EIC heads....another made up fact. You stated DF's heads have never been removed this year, TTB says they've had the pistons out on a freshen up and DF stated he's had piston issues.....looks like another fact you made up. You're constantly jumping to conclusions..... I make a post backing up TTB's claims and you are ready to fight because you think some how I am anti CV1....which isn't true at all. I'm all about the truth, which you are not unless the truth supports your beliefs.

If I was anti CV1 I would point out that DF ran 7.7 with his Ehead combo roughly six years ago. Fast forward with a new build and much better technology along with improved carburetors and a dry sump he has ran 7.6. I understand that is with less nitrous but we have no idea if the combination will respond to more nitrous favorably. I would also point out that he has a top notch chassis with big tires and only has Cosgrove's Ehead combination covered by a tenth or so and Cosgrove's chassis is leaf springs, Cal-track and smaller tires. Cosgrove's car is ten times more "street" than DF's car, I've seen both cars in person.. I would also point out that DF has Kinsler's much smaller cid Ehead combination covered by a tenth or so and Kinsler has a small tire, Cal-Track leaf spring suspension 1/8 mile car using a single four and plate ...not two fours and a dual fogger. But since I'm not a CV1 hater I won't mention the above.

I apologize to Cosgrove and Kinsler for mentioning their names but I didn't really see a way around it. Both their cars are bad azz and do the Pontiac community proud.

A lot of truth in there!

LiL Jack · 09-20-2016, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K

By chance would dragging Langer down the track be one of those goals mentioned seven years ago?

Again, with the facts. Stop it!

PAUL K · 09-20-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

Who?? Name names so we know who you are talking about.

Bruce I didn't answer this question. I thought you were being sarcastic.

PAUL K · 09-20-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL Jack

A lot of truth in there!

The only BS is Bruce's!

Scott Roberts · 09-20-2016, 08:19 PM

In Fultons defense, I believe there is a lot left in it. Its only been down the track a hand and a half full of times at best I believe... I personally believe the car is going to go low 7's based On what I know... Fulton is not a boastful guy and doesn't show his hand... Just an educated opinion on my end..

Scott Roberts · 09-20-2016, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Again, with the facts. Stop it!

Shouldn't you be in the garage trying to figure out why your 50k motor is a slug?

cdrookie · 09-20-2016, 08:21 PM

PAUL K for president!

PAUL K · 09-20-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

In Fultons defense, I believe there is a lot left in it. Its only been down the track a hand and a half full of times at best I believe... I personally believe the car is going to go low 7's based On what I know... Fulton is not a boastful guy and doesn't show his hand... Just an educated opinion on my end..

I don't think DF needs a defense. It's his cheering squad that's the problem.

BruceWilkie · 09-20-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cgeise

Here is a different way to ask the question -- Have the CV1 OR 2 lived up to the projections that you and others were screaming about 7 years ago - saying they are better than an e-head is a pretty low bar to jump over as it is a 20 year old casting and without a doubt really a design that was made for the street -- so, has it reached the potential that you stated or believed it would, just a question no hate or other wise.

Curt from my viewpoint it was intended to be a step up from a basic wideport at that point in time. That was a basic out of the box cv1 that didnt need fancy valve gear at entry level with the added bonus of its ability to use on a stock block size bore. CFM was more than the average basic wideport.
Jim would be the one to say what potential he had in mind at the time.
Pure speculation if I throw out a number.
There has been a lot of port deveopment basd on popular engine sizes and purposes. Most development wasnt to see mega flow numbers but on good flow curves suitable for likely combos. Alot of choices already digitized Most revision in the new castings was to allow for ports bigger than found in Fultons N2O build with "Max Cast" cnc heads without welding. I think that motor with a cam and possibly header change with 2-3 more points compression might hint at the NA potential. There are ports developed beyond the Max cast cnc. At what point one decides to put those ports (or even bigger) in a CV2 billet is something to discuss with Bill or Jim.

Bill is putting together a big NA motor and tight lipped on expected numbers. I'd expect strong numbers but we may not see them until its been in a suitable car and rode hard. If its better than what he expects it to do I'd expect a package will be made available and Bill will try to out do himself from there.

Aaron Quinton · 09-20-2016, 08:54 PM

Put it on the street and I'm in with an '05 NA GTO or a 73 NA TA. You in?

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Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

63 vette..2650lbs..blower car.

john marcella · 09-20-2016, 08:58 PM

If a head has been on the market for 7+ years and its performance potential/ claims are still being disputed, then I would think its REAL relevance in the market has been established ! Kind of would seem obvious ,except for those who **"WISH"** it to be different.
Ot at least thats my take on it.

bpenrod · 09-20-2016, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K

It's his cheering squad that's the problem.

Best post on this subject in seven years.

GTO Dan · 09-20-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K

....It's his cheering squad that's the problem.

Hater

LiL Jack · 09-20-2016, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Shouldn't you be in the garage trying to figure out why your 50k motor is a slug?

Where do you come up with these BS numbers.
Ur almost as bad as Bill and the rest of the duffeses with the 30k tops end BS.

Jeff Kinsler · 09-20-2016, 09:20 PM

I think we need another EHTTFMF.

Carry on.

Question? Did dicks e- headed engine have a dry sump on it?

chiefbigb · 09-20-2016, 09:22 PM

How is it that people know how much money other people spend on their stuff? Allot left in a combination that cooked parts on what's supposed to be a moderate hit? Let's get real here.

PAUL K · 09-20-2016, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Where do you come up with these BS numbers.
Ur almost as bad as Bill and the rest of the duffeses with the 30k tops end BS.

Jack I have been pressured to question your new build (and this is supposed to prove I am not a hater or biased) so my question about your new build is..... have you had a catastrophic failure of any sort and if you did would it have cost a considerable amount of money to repair it?

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