[njsteve]

Originally Posted by Bentwheelbob

Are you sure? My prop valve didn't have that stamp before going to White Post, but did after they rebuilt it. Same for the master cylinder.

Interesting. I will call them Monday on that one. They were specifically ordered to not alter the exterior finish whatsoever due to the survivor nature of the car. At least they made an effort to stamp it where the bolt shoulder will cover it.

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by RAJ7395

Don't get to excited. I fell for that e-bay sellers trap last year. Lists the right number in the ad but the actual hose you get is an incorrect #18002136 replacement. So.. It's NOS but not 40 years old.

I will definitely keep you updated on what shows up! Nobody messes with my hose!
(Doh, there I go again)

[Norwood]

Well I'm glad it's not a 40 yr old hose

[njsteve]

Oh, it's much older than that. Wait, were we still talking about car parts?

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by RAJ7395

Don't get to excited. I fell for that e-bay sellers trap last year. Lists the right number in the ad but the actual hose you get is an incorrect #18002136 replacement. So.. It's NOS but not 40 years old.

You were right! What arrived was a 18002136 176-503 hose dated 1976 with "503" stamped on the big end. I sent him an email about it. Let's see what happens next.

[77 Canamman]

What a bunch of aholes..

[Pepi]

Originally Posted by njsteve

You were right! What arrived was a 18002136 176-503 hose dated 1976 with "503" stamped on the big end. I sent him an email about it. Let's see what happens next.

That is just so wrong to list a certain P/N piece, but send a replacement. Good luck with that.

[njsteve]

When I brought it to his attention that this has happened before with these prior hose listings this was his response:

"Hello. Yes you will get a refund for the item and the cost of sending the item back. I was unaware of the issue the previous person taking care of the listings did not make a note about the issue. I do appreciate your calm demeanor people can get quite nasty. I'll do some research on the hose and make the proper corrections. Thank You"

[77 Canamman]

If you haven't done so already, I would put those two part numbers into your saved searches feature on E-Bay. This will automatically alert you via e-mail if one is listed. I have obtained several NOS parts this way.

[Formulabruce]

Originally Posted by Pepi

That is just so wrong to list a certain P/N piece, but send a replacement. Good luck with that.

GM did it ALL the Time to dealerships as part #'s were combined and Homologation began on them. This caused some stacking in parts bins as ya never knew if you needed a new bin or it was a replacement part for a while. Models that shared drivelines, and or brake parts etc, and spanned many years, often got new parts, with new numbers and sometimes a new manufacturer. Ac Delco wiper blades that fit on factory Trico arms are a good example. By 1981 a 78 Nova Ralley brake hose was same as a 77z-28, and a 77 T/A , Ventura.. etc. there was over 20 different master cylinder numbers, merged into ONE.
I only use Dot 5 now in a car or truck that sits around. , No hassles, no unexpected paint stripping...

[77 Canamman]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1973-Pontiac-Firebird-Delco-Brakr-rear-brake-hose-NOS-18002136-/262964242731?hash=item3d39e3e92b:gN0AAOSwv0tVDLu A&vxp=mtr

At least they finally changed the listing to reflect the proper part number!

[Formulabruce]

Whitepost can built a original hose if you send them the original.

[njsteve]

Has anyone had this done? Do they use your original ends???

[njsteve]

More tinkering. The heat buildup in the rear drums caused by the swelled up hose, ruined the original set of brake return springs. I replaced the entire set with some NOS ones I had as it seemed like the shoes were dragging and not returning to their original positions. After a test drive the rear drums were around 300 degrees. When I pulled the springs off, including the small ones that hold the shoes to the backing plate, all of them were permanently stuck in their stretched position, except the little ones that hold the shoes to the backing plates - they were permanently compressed. The brakes seem to be working properly now.

So now I have a little collection of original parts removed from the car - all nicely labeled in separate ziploc bags.

Another lesson learned: old brake components are not good to have on a survivor - if you want to survive driving it.

[frank.g]

Similar driver issues can be had with original belts, original hoses, original thermostats, original spark plug wires, original coils and original heater cores. But you already know about the heater core. Gotta love your old car, cause you need the love to get through these "fun" times.

[njsteve]

Yup, the old survivor curse strikes again!

[njsteve]

I was getting the old girl ready for a photo shoot today and took it for a half mile drive when suddenly the car starts wobbling. Yup you guessed it. Another one of the NOS 1973 Firestone 500 tires exploded. This was one I got off craigslist a few years ago. I had an NOS spare tire and rim from a 1974 T/A in the garage so I bolted that on the car and we were good to go. Those Firestone 500s are real widow-makers. I was only going 15 MPH at the time. I can't imagine what people went through with these things when they were new, back in the 1970's and Firestone denied that there was any problem whatsoever.

Here's what it looked like while still inflated. It continued snapping the steel cords and shredding as I was taking the photo.

[njsteve]

And after I deflated it. BTW, those are steel cords sticking out of there, not polyester.

[njsteve]

The photographer got some good shots on a nice day.

[eaglesan13]

Steve,

What size tires are on the car in this picture?