[400 4spd.]

Another thing that Pontiac guys need to get over, the fact that 1967 was the year of the best GTO. (Even though a big block would not be offered for a few more years.)

[TedRamAirII]

Things I hear, and I just turn away.
1. Its a Big Block 454
2. Its got a 3/4 race cam
3. Pontiac makes small blocks and big blocks
4. Yep, its got a M22 Stone Crusher trans.
5. I put a 350 in where the 327 was, it barely fit!
6. After I put the 4.10 gear in, its too fast for the street.
7. You cant use Nitrous on aluminum pistons.
8. I think I blacked out from too much traction, I dont remember the green light.
9. A 9 inch would not fit, I had to use a 10 bolt.
10. I put in a Ram Air V cam, but I had to use different rocker arms.
11. The bleeders go on the bottom, to drain the air out (brake calipers)

[GOAT WHORE]

Originally Posted by Carmine

I never knew about the "Buick" decal on my air cleaner lid, until someone told me about it.

I think more people think it's correct then know the truth. It's one thing if a guy is putting it on there because he just likes the look, it's another if he's putting it on there because he thought that's the way it came from the factory.
As far as big block small block, it is important to educate people on this subject, how else are they going to know? I guess I'm just to passionate about the 60's-70's Pontiacs to let it go.

[Will]

Originally Posted by bird72

I have never heard of people referring to Poncho engines as Big Bocks until this thread

I think this went right over everyone's head...

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by goatless

Never had that happen. I must associate with a higher class of people than you're used to. ��

Must have been outside of your hearing...believe me, they've done it. I even had my '68 called a Road Runner.

[Steve C.]

From Car Craft magazine about Pontiac people....

The fans are as dedicated as the Mopar nuts, and serious political strife between the Pontiac specialists breeds even more strong opinions and loyalties. There are enough new Pontiac enthusiasts that the crowd of old-timers can be heard, "I was into 'em before they were cool."


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[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by Steve C.

From Car Craft magazine about Pontiac people....

The fans are as dedicated as the Mopar nuts, and serious political strife between the Pontiac specialists breeds even more strong opinions and loyalties. There are enough new Pontiac enthusiasts that the crowd of old-timers can be heard, "I was into 'em before they were cool."


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Sounds interesting...is there a link to the article somewhere?

[72projectbird]

I like when Pontiac people complain about the Trans Am conversions on the 5th/6th gen Camaros. Their argument is usually "It's not a real Pontiac because it has a Chevy engine in it". So by that standard, every T/A from 1982 onward isn't a real Pontiac.

I also like when Pontiac guys squirm when mentioning the 89 TTA. It was a flat out ass kicker, and it did it with 2 less cylinders (and a non Pontiac engine).

[RocktimusPryme]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

I like when Pontiac people complain about the Trans Am conversions on the 5th/6th gen Camaros. Their argument is usually "It's not a real Pontiac because it has a Chevy engine in it". So by that standard, every T/A from 1982 onward isn't a real Pontiac.

I also like when Pontiac guys squirm when mentioning the 89 TTA. It was a flat out ass kicker, and it did it with 2 less cylinders (and a non Pontiac engine).

Right? I'll take all those 98-02 WS6s and not feel the least bad about it.

I will say the downside is it confuses the hell outf eBay. There are ton of sbc parts listed as "Fits Pontiac"

[Steve C.]

Greg- Sorry no link, just a tid bit I wrote down. In part because of the comment about political strife between the Pontiac specialists.


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[ws6speedpaul]

I would like to add.

What about all the high dollar GTO rotisserie restorations with the exhaust tips placed upside down?

[Terry M. Hunt]

Over 30+ years of being a Pontiac enthusiast/hobbyist I've learned that it is now more trouble than it is worth to try and correct most Pontiac blunders that I hear, since it almost always seems to go in one ear and out the other of the offending party. However, there is one exception to this. For some reason it feels like nails on a chalkboard or an icepick in the eye when I frequently hear people refer to Tri Power as "a Six Pack". That is one that I just can't let go.

[Radman]

A friend of mine has a data sheet style plaque that he sits up in front of his 63 Le Mans. One of the items on the plaque is a tongue in cheek statement "Big Block 4 cylinder". He has a lot of fun when people nod their head and agree.
I second the gripe of calling my Tri-Power a Six Pack. If the guy is not acting like a know-it-all, I will say that the Six Pack is Mopar, the Pontiac name is Tri-Power.

[AdamIsAdam]

Tri-Power/Six Pack corrections and Big Block corrections should be politely made IMO. Many don't know and would prefer to know going forward. The same can be said for the decal.

I can tell you that I wasn't always a Pontiac guy, although I love them now. I started off with a Mopar, then learned all I could about them (before the www came about). I moved on to a 72 GP with a Tri-Power, but after that I was into newer metal cars for a long time which always served as a DD'er as well as a hobby.

Then after many years without a classic muscle car, I got back into it with a 68 LeMans (with a GTO hood and Judge spoiler I might add). I learned A LOT about Pontiacs, and I just might know more than most (present company excluded). It's what I do, I love stuff, so I want to learn all I can about them, especially when that stuff IS MINE!

If no one ever told me that the air cleaner decals were not a Pontiac thing, I would have assumed they were (based on all those ebay ads at least! LOL) Many folks want to learn, but we need good teachers. Hell, just read all the threads on here started by average folks like me that are filled with answers from knowledgeable and very experienced folks. I want to hear all that first hand knowledge while it's still readily available!

So teach your children well!

ok, sorry, soapbox dismount now.

[linden_gto]

Originally Posted by 400 4spd.

Another thing that Pontiac guys need to get over, the fact that 1967 was the year of the best GTO.

are you sure that one isn't true...?

[NeighborsComplaint]

I had a guy look at my motor at a car show and ask if it was a 454. I told him no, it's a 455, the 454 was a Chevy motor. He tells me "Well, they're still the same motor though." At that point, I know he's convinced he knows more than I, so I told him "Well technically, no. The Pontiac 455 has one more cubic inch." He nods in agreement, crisis averted.

[linden_gto]

Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint

I had a guy look at my motor at a car show and ask if it was a 454. I told him no, it's a 455, the 454 was a Chevy motor. He tells me "Well, they're still the same motor though." At that point, I know he's convinced he knows more than I, so I told him "Well technically, no. The Pontiac 455 has one more cubic inch." He nods in agreement, crisis averted.

i like the response "as far as you know, they are. you're correct."

[Greg Reid]

Originally Posted by NeighborsComplaint

I had a guy look at my motor at a car show and ask if it was a 454. I told him no, it's a 455, the 454 was a Chevy motor. He tells me "Well, they're still the same motor though." At that point, I know he's convinced he knows more than I, so I told him "Well technically, no. The Pontiac 455 has one more cubic inch." He nods in agreement, crisis averted.

That reminds me of when a guy did a U-turn when he saw myself and another guy peering under the hood of my '74 Trans Am. It had a base 455 but it had SD stickers on the scoop. The guy says, "I just wanted to see a real SD engine" He looked disappointed when he looked at it. I told him that it was the standard 455. He says, "Yeah, I can tell. A Super Duty has valve covers on it about 'Yay wide'..." and he's holding his hands nearly a foot apart. Yeah, those Super Duties are big blocks.

[craigs69]

What did Pontiac call the setup with 8 carburetors? (This is a LOL, not a real question)

I had a lady tell me once at the gas pump that "they" had a 69 GTO with a special engine and 8 carburetors on it from the factory. They were gonna "go Nascar" with it but they didn't have a cage. She said they sold it to Dale Earnhardt's mechanic because it "cost too much" to put a cage in it.

I chose to nod my head and say "cool", rather than engage that conversation.......

[mgarblik]

When I had my 66 2+2 421 HO 4-speed convertible, this was a very common comment. "I had a Pontiac just like that one". This would generally apply to any full size Pontiac from 1963 through 1970. I would typically say, yea, they sold allot of them in the 60's , very popular and let it go at that.