[north]

I had the same issues with PPG for the Verdoro on my 69's. In fairness to them I have two 69's with original Verdoro paint and they are very different.

But I've had a hell of a time with PPG on my 2+2 (Canadian model but they used the American Pontiac colors). That car is Burgundy and my poor body guy forgot to have me approve color samples. We called the paint supplier and they mixed up an extra pint to see if they had made a mixing mistake but it came back identical. It is way off and after some calls to PPG directly it is obvious that there formula is completely wrong. It is also obvious that they couldn't give a s***.

The photo shows the very large color chips from the dealer paint album and it matches beautifully with the original paint in the jams. I took the pic on the hood of the car showing the new paint. It has way too much "orange" and not enough "purple". We are repainting it this week after two months of screwing around with PPG to no avail.

We finally did a custom blend. What is so frustrating about how PPG treated this is that I absolutely love their product. It just works great, very forgiving and my oldest application of the paint dates to 2005 and the paint has held up beautifully, with zero deterioration.

[68ragtop]

I agree North. Today, PPG no longer makes the color in Deltron. Just std Omni & Global. The two colors are worlds apart. In fact, I would say in general Omni base pretty much stinks (insert stronger word).... Coverage is terrible & its not a good match. Omni Plus, however is a good covering paint, but they don't have a formula for verdoro in the plus line. so with PPG, its either Omni or Global. But with Global, you have to buy it without even trying to understand why its priced the way it is.... Its crazy expensive.

[68droptop]

This is something I hope I never have to do again. What a pain in the a$$.
Epoxied the under side of the hood today. Painting it black tomorrow

[68ragtop]

Looks great!
I have picts just like that.
Then the painstaking task of filling the pits. If your going that far?

The area below the rear vents is no fun either.

[68droptop]

Thanks bud

[68ragtop]

Did you ever get a chance to look at your wheel wells? Mine are painted & ready for install so I am not going to buy something else. its more out of curiosity if yours are the same as mine. Mine also had 2 extra mounting holes that I welded up.

[68ragtop]

On your hood, do you have the topside bodywork done already? I found it hard to keep overspray from entering the underside when painting. So I did all the prep on the underside, including final sanding. Then after painting body color, I sanded off the overspray & painted the underside. Worked out pretty well. The only single regret was I wish I would have forced seam sealer in-between the hood skin & underside panel (left & right side) not so much you can see it, but enough to keep stuff out of there. Water gets in-between during color sanding. Minor deal, but I would have done that if I had a do-over. I seam sealed every other panel, doors, trunk lid, etc. not sure why I didn't do it on the hood.

I also sprayed it with two guns. I had my SRI dialed in to spray in between the hood braces. Made life a little easier. So hard to get paint between those panels & its fairly easy to see in there. If your installing hood insulation, might not be a big deal though?

[salem1912]

"I'm going with the original color....verdoro green. I wanted to paint it red but my daughter said absolutely not....LOL[/QUOTE]"

You won't be disappointed with the Verdoro. I also used PPG Global paint. Yes very expensive(light gray primer). Color really pops in the sunlight. Between '67 '68,'69 the colors do have a different shade( http://www.gtoforum.com/f83/verdoro-...ictures-43714/ ) A few pictures to keep you with Verdoro.
Tom

[68ragtop]

Tom (salem1912) is actually Who headed me towards using Global after getting frustrated with all the versions of verdoro out there.

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by salem1912

"I'm going with the original color....verdoro green. I wanted to paint it red but my daughter said absolutely not....LOL

"

You won't be disappointed with the Verdoro. I also used PPG Global paint. Yes very expensive(light gray primer). Color really pops in the sunlight. Between '67 '68,'69 the colors do have a different shade( http://www.gtoforum.com/f83/verdoro-...ictures-43714/ ) A few pictures to keep you with Verdoro.
Tom[/QUOTE]That paint looks fantastic! I am getting close to paint myself. How much color coat did you need for the whole car. Would a gallon be enough?

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[salem1912]

We got a gallon and about a qt is left in the can.(convertible) includes trunk and door jambs.

[PurelyGTO68]

Originally Posted by salem1912

We got a gallon and about a qt is left in the can.(convertible) includes trunk and door jambs.

Great. Thank you. My car is a convertible as well....same color combo. Hope it ends up looking as nice as yours.

[dataway]

That is exactly the color I want, and exactly the color I remember on my 68 when purchased in 76.

Saved the label photo. But can you give me any info on the paint as far as type? BC/CC ? Single stage? Is that number before PRIME on the label the recommended primer?

Don't know a lot about modern paints ... so any information would be helpful.
Thanks.

[68droptop]

Thanks for the paint code help. I'm sticking with the verdoro green.
Got the underside of the hood painted yesterday.

[68ragtop]

EDIT: sorry, response from an earlier page..... Oopps

I have the sticker from my can also I can post. should be the same however....

[dataway]

Just wondering what kind of paint it is ... label looks like it says "BC" base coat "MET" metallic, so I assume BC/CC system.

I was leaning toward SS, but that stuff looks so good and close to original that might go with that.

[68ragtop]

Its PPG Global BC. Here is a link:

http://us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refini...finish-System;

Aside from the color match, the Global also has the very fine metallic flakes that are correct. The others I have looked at have a more modern, larger flake in the paint. Also has that olive/gold tint that seems to have gotten lost in some other paints. I think I have some pictures of the my spray cards next to the untouched backside of a original painted door. it was so damn close to exactly the same.

[dataway]

Thank you sir.

[68ragtop]

I wish I would have saved those sprayout cards. I could have cut them up mailed them out to other members. Just never thought of that until now

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by 68ragtop

Its PPG Global BC. Here is a link:

http://us.ppgrefinish.com/PPG-Refini...finish-System;

Aside from the color match, the Global also has the very fine metallic flakes that are correct. The others I have looked at have a more modern, larger flake in the paint. Also has that olive/gold tint that seems to have gotten lost in some other paints. I think I have some pictures of the my spray cards next to the untouched backside of a original painted door. it was so damn close to exactly the same.

Yes, that olive tint is not seen in some paint systems. When I recently sprayed dads car it's original color of Verdoro Green, it now has that correct appearance, and actually changes how it looks depending on how light hits it. At night it sometimes looks dark brownish until it's hit with light. Then the fine metallics bring out the color. Hard to explain unless it's seen in person.

For Dataway, if you're considering this color, I personally wouldn't do single stage. Not only does it not look quite the same, but polishing it afterwards is a dicey proposition because of all the fine metallic in the color. If you plan to wet sand and buff the car then you'll want a base/clear system. I've used BASF products for years and a certain person to mix my colors. Excellent product and spot on color matches to original paint formulas from back in the day that also include the fine metallics that 68ragtop mentions.