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Old 03-07-2018, 12:59 PM
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Default Interesting "1970" Formula On ebay

An ultra-rare 1970 Formula 400 with a 1975 rear, and interior. No VIN in ad, but probably a '75+ car with a 70ish Front Clip which has fender support brackets.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162933191191?ul_noapp=true

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An ultra-rare 1970 Formula 400 with a 1975 rear, and interior. No VIN in ad, but probably a '75+ car with a 70ish Front Clip which has fender support brackets.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162933191191?ul_noapp=true

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Well worth it

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Planning on using the money to further his education.

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Old 03-07-2018, 05:45 PM
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Planning on using the money to further his education.
Bet the owner is going to get a real world education when that contraption sells.

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Old 03-07-2018, 06:40 PM
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Planning on using the money to further his education.
Well sense grade school, he's had to rely on his own good since of custom car prices.

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Old 03-07-2018, 07:25 PM
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Four pictures and a 70 word description for an 80K car I think he went a little over board trying to sell it

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As soon as I saw what he did to the hood, I lost interest.

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Old 03-08-2018, 01:45 AM
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I don't mind bolt on mods, or a early nose on a late car. The hood ugh... but we all know its Not a 1970... He should ditch the shaker wannabe and sell it as the '76 that it is. ( guessing on the year)

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Old 03-08-2018, 07:02 AM
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75 rear based on bumper and big window

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Its got a 12 bolt. To bad he does not put more pics up.

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Old 03-08-2018, 11:41 AM
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at the very least it's got something going on...
it could have been back halved, or it could be a vin swap...
I agree that if this goof hopes to get anywhere near his astronomical asking price, he needs more information and pictures.

But I highly doubt he will ever sell it for even half of his 'buy it now' price...

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Old 03-08-2018, 01:07 PM
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Quote from seller > " New message from: bzmarinas (99Blue Star)
It's always been a 1970. I put a 75 rear end on it. Has the original 70 motor, heads, tray and 12 bolt rear end. I have owned the car sense 1982 and before me, my dad bought the car new in 1970. Thanks"
IMHO .... Seems like the "rear end" started at the cowl tag...

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Old 03-08-2018, 02:06 PM
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over the years there have been a handfull of 70-73 Firebirds which have showed up with later rear ends grafted in place, in varying levels of quality.

other than it getting nearly written off in 1975, and then getting a "new" rear end installed, I can't imagine why this would have been done;
Theoretically, if the roof and trunk floor are left in place, you should be able to replace with a 1974+ tail panel, and the 1975+ quarters...
It could be done, but why!?

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:14 PM
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Maybe was rear-ended and had a 75 donor. There was a 73 here that had a tree fall on roof, and they put a big window roof on it. Weird.

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Old 03-08-2018, 02:51 PM
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Quote from seller > " New message from: bzmarinas (99Blue Star)
It's always been a 1970. I put a 75 rear end on it. Has the original 70 motor, heads, tray and 12 bolt rear end. I have owned the car sense 1982 and before me, my dad bought the car new in 1970. Thanks"
IMHO .... Seems like the "rear end" started at the cowl tag...
Put a 75 rear end on it

More like he took the front clip / Vin tag and put it on a 75 Body.

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469, 6X-4's, 72 Intake, Ramair Manifolds.
3 inch exhaust with x-pipe
Custom Roller Cam, 1.52 Roller Rockers
Quadrajet done by Cliff
3:42 gears

12.061 @ 110.74
12.092 @ 112.43
12.128 @ 111.71


461 stroker
Edelbrock 87 cc dport heads
Performer RPM
Same Ram Air manifolds, and quadrajet


75 Formula 400 / 4-SPD matching numbers
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Old 03-08-2018, 05:27 PM
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Put a 75 rear end on it

More like he took the front clip / Vin tag and put it on a 75 Body.
the floor and/or subframe should make this easy to identify;
the floors are different for 1975;
I believe the trunk floor was also revised for 1975 - but I could be mistaken...

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:09 PM
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If there's 2.4 pounds of gold in the glove box he has a chance, otherwise....

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Old 03-08-2018, 06:13 PM
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/\ that's an angle i hadn't considered

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:14 PM
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a common swap for decades has been bolt a '70-72 Firebird loaded endura & whatever fenders didnt have rust in them, onto a nothing special '75-76-77 Firebird. Over the years Ive bought three such deals & cut them all up for parts. Looking at old records, managed only three good late style doors, two good '75+ quarters, and a few early fender rails out of the mess of them. Having bought hundreds of partscars, such street urchin cr@p seldom has great sheet metal. The most hideous of the three, I picked up from a local apartment complex handyman. That particular '77 contraption had a pop up sunroof, shag carpet, & early Olds 400 out of an '66 442. the early Olds 400 was worth many times more to me, than the muddled up fenders & far from nice endura nose & boogered up Formula hood.

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