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Well JC, it looks like you have some nice turbos, a nice blow-thru carb, and need no help from either one of the guys above so why are they screwing up your thread?
Good luck with your Turbo Project and tell Roger I said hello. Tom V.
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I have had a csu blow thru for 5 years now, Works great, I just make adjustments when more or less boost is used. I keep a notebook of jets I use with what boost.
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CSU carb here too. Great carb and super easy to adjust to boost. I have no experience with C&S, but most recommend these two companies.
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The CSU has a really good PV...
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We've used 3 CSU blowthrough carb setups in our group, none of them have needed to be touched, all very close out of the box -maybe a little rich for safety. Basically fit and forget.
0ne is a 7 second capable 540 BBC, another a 10.1 sec full size 4000lb van with 400 SBC, and the other a '69 Camaro with 400 SBC running 10's. All are street legal and have to complete a 25 mile road cruise at each race event. Another CSU will be going on my son's turbo combo 350 Pontiac powered race/street car. |
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This setup had 1400 tune on it. Going to send back and get recalibrated.
What is concensus on a nice street Hp tune? 525 with Don's Vs.
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850 wheel HP at 13 psi of boost.
Drive it anywhere. You should easily make that by 5000 rpm. Tom V.
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I know that you have a great carb, JC, that is built by C&S Carbs.
Chief of the 60s is bragging below about the Pro Systems Carb.: "Go fast and don’t worry. This is how blow through carburetors should’ve been built in the first place. This design currently holds the World Record on the Salt as driven by Willie Glass at over 208 mph in a ’29 Hi Boy (as delivered “out of the box” no adjustment, it was dead on)." Chief of the 60s has never been to Bonneville, I have several times in the past. So he thinks his hero has done something. The first time, I was at Bonneville as a Boost Guy) Ron Main set the record at Bonneville (not at 208 mph) with a 1946 Ford Flathead Engine (vehicle weighed twice what the Willi Glass Hi Boy weighed) and the Ron Main vehicle/engine ran 300 mph on the salt. So to put things in perspective, Chief of the 60s example would be like bragging about a 14 second run in a GTO. You have a excellent carb (built by an expert carb builder) and Roger WILL get it dialed in for your HP number. Tom V.
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You can call me out all you want with your B.S. lies. The end result will be you looking like a royal dumbass. As you once said "Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. |
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Got any actual proof of that?
When you go past the gas station and get to the sign do you turn left or right? Tom V.
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Maybe that was too hard for you Chief.
Make it easier for you. You are on the Salt and you ask a couple of people "Have you seen Cooky or Louise?" Tell me who "Cooky and Louise" are. Tom V.
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7 hours later, still no answer.
Will give him until 10:30 tonight (12 hours) to come up with the most basic answer to a simple Bonneville Salt Flats Question that any Bonneville person would know (if they had actually been there). Tom V.
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"Land Speed Louise" and "Mike Cook" (of the Stone, Woods, and Cook) Racing Families are two of the most famous people that come to the event each year. So if you had actually been there and paid any attention at all, to the people involved in the events, you would know who they were. Kind of like asking "Have you seen PETE at the Norwalk Event. It might be sponsored by Steve Ames and others but Pete Woodruff is the guy who has put on the event each year forever.
Tom V.
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So, JC, we know that you are going to use a A-Body vehicle for your street fun. 69 Judge.
You have the ability to make well over 1000 hp. You are going to have Roger give you a bit lower HP Tune on the C&S carb YOU OWN. The turbo size is good vs say trying to run 88mm turbos on a true street car. John Meany of the BIG Stuff 3 EFI company built a 1000 hp street car (Corvette) with John Lingerfelters help that John Meany drove everywhere. Similar sized turbos. More Package room in your Judge though vs John's corvette. The RAV heads (from Don, I assume), will allow plenty of power with a fairly low boost pressure. Steve Morris made 1700 HP with a single 850 cfm style Holley Carb on a "street car" (American Motors Product) so your carb (from Roger) will have no issues making 1000 hp at lower boost. Inter-cooler would be a good idea and fairly easy to package in a A-Body. Tom V. ps I was at Steve Morris Dyno when the AMC guy made the 1700+ HP with the 850 cfm style carb.
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JC, I would not worry too much about making the power. We have a PY member, who drives his 65 GTO everywhere,
(I have been told 3,000 miles so far with the Turbo Engine in his car to date. It made 1600 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER on the dyno with his turbo combination. He runs on street pump gas on the road at 10 psi and runs 116 fuel when he turns the boost up. No methanol for him. So it is very possible to have a great turbo street engine package. Tom V.
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Yes NRE has many 1000+ Hp street builds and videos with their second generation mirror 60ish mm dual setups.
Excited about getting this thing going. I may change bodies though. Having second thoughts on cutting on the judge. It would need pretty much everything to handle 1000+ Hp. I have a 66 a body street/strip already certified to 8:50. I could have this thing going by early next year. Anyway will post progress as it goes.
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My vote would be do the 66 A-Body with the turbos and don't cut up the Judge.
A lot more freedom with the 66 body and plenty of parts still out there. Good luck with your Turbo project. Tom V.
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X2 on the notes. Mine were very poor and used up an entire weekend at the track to get back to where I was the end of the previous year.
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The CSU Carb, the Quick Fuel Carb, & the C&S carb will all do the job on a Pontiac as all three carb builders have experience with Boosted PONTIAC Engines. I am not talking about LS type stuff in a Pontiac badged body.
Tom V.
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Question on a air to water setup. Anyone make a inner grated unit for a carb that sets on the top of the engine like a fi NRE x Ram?
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