[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

Last time i thought... i was right !

You got that right.....you thought you were right!


GTO George

[Dragncar]

What happened to that big inch "572" ?????? All the CV Patrol was like yeah, see, see..............
Then Chief comes on and sets us all straight. Going smaller yet and keeping E heads until further notice.
Then Bruce Almighty is telling us all about the virtues of short strokes and why its the way to go.
Can not make this stuff.
People here have got on me about mixing it up with "couple" guys 2-3 seconds faster than me. I get it, I really do. Just like to talk engines ect.
Then Bruce comes on and tells all the big dogs about short strokes and why they are better and turbos are the way to go. From driving his wifes 13 sec street car and playing with a home porta tree I guess.
Must have had a 5 min conversation with Q and thinks he gets to suggest things to the fastest of the fastest around here.
Polishing the 59 block would be more useful.

[Jack Gifford]

Pretty obvious to any casual observer why Chief seldom posts here.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by BrandX

hi guys! not much changed around here lol. I would like to add a few facts, and spread some truth in this thread (that seems flooded with misinformation and misguided opinions lol).


First thing first, yes those are my cv heads in the pic that was posted. We started this project in 2016 i believe, and because of the brutal racing schedule
and non stop abuse that i put my parts thru....the heads have gone thru some lengthy processes in order to get where we are today. In roland racing defense, i’m also an @ssshole drag racer. Which means, im very impatient and i’m not the average pontiac cylinder head customer. I race the absolute biggest race of my life, twice a week for 29 weeks at a time. I can’t have downtime, and i don’t have time to r and d / quality check other people’s products (no matter how good of a deal i get). I only get a few weeks a year to try crazy new stuff and i don’t have the money to tear up my car and miss out on races. If my car ain’t winning races, i can’t bet on it, and in turn i don’t get paid. When the cv guys and myself sat down to talk details, they understood what i’m up against. And it’s my opinion, that they have done everything in their power in order to prepare that top end for a racer like me. When it comes to the internet, especially pontiac guys....you really only get one chance at having your hardware on a truly competitive car with a driver and crew that consistently turns win lights on against sbc/bbc, all fords, and even 481x’s and monster billet n20 mills.

I don’t have the top end in my hands yet but you can bet your ass, the minute i get the combo in front of me...i will be begging for a few weeks off to go testing with it.

The engine in my car now is the same engine i’ve had for years. I recently ordered a new block and same e head combo up top, just to have new castings (mine are pretty wore out lol) and with the schedule we have nowadays i have always been a little worried about not having a spare engine to swap out, in case i get a little wild with the loud pedal. The new engine is a little smaller in order to fit some of the bigger payout class rules should i ever choose to class race it.


I feel the cv top end has a lot of potential hp gains. I’ve never doubted that. But i’ve proven over and over again that hp ain’t everything. I’ll take reliable parts over big power any day of the week. As long as the thing will stay together, i can test test test until i figure out how to win with it. Who cares how much power it makes, if you can’t make it to the finals and you got no spares to fix it. Thats the main reason i’ve never switched out the eheads for
something “better”. The cv guys understand the demands placed on my equipment, and they have made adjustments so that i get the best of both worlds. HP and Reliabilty. The results will speak for themselves. Let’s face it, there isn’t anyone i can call and order a top end upgrade for a twin turbo 9400 rpm 3 second nitro breathing traditional pontiac door car lol.

Stan

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Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

Pretty obvious to any casual observer why Chief seldom posts here.

Quoted for truth

[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by Jack Gifford

Pretty obvious to any casual observer why Chief seldom posts here.

This is a friendly crowd. The true hatred and venom is on YB, Facebook and other social media.

Unfortunate byproduct of success and fame I guess.

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

You got that right.....you thought you were right!


GTO George

No george you were and still are wrong.You were never even on a on ramp to being even close to right ! You would never even allow yourself the be right if you could be right because you luv rolling around in your own ****! U said he wasnt competitive because his motor is too small. I said that wasnt the case !! So no george you were wrong and I was and am right! so get over it !

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

No george you were and still are wrong.You were never even on a on ramp to being even close to right ! You would never even allow yourself the be right if you could be right because you luv rolling around in your own ****! U said he wasnt competitive because his motor is too small. I said that wasnt the case !! So no george you were wrong and I was and am right! so get over it !

I’m not arguing right or wrong, and yes it would seem he is not going with a larger engine so yes I am wrong (my gosh I’ve been wrong before). I’m sure I’ll bE wrong again and guess what the sun will come up! LOL! You do realize I gave my opinion, going off what I’ve seen on the show! His last 5 races/Laps he made he lost 4 of them. He said he has other ways of dealing with the more powerful/faster car, ok cool. I’m glad he is stepping up to a better head, he should have done it for Indy! I’m not a turbo guy but I do know boost and I do now racecars and I do know Racing! I’ll still say 520+ cubes and a pair of turbos are the way to go.....you can never have too much power! You know there is nothing wrong with giving an opinion (right or wrong) as long as it doesn’t harm someone!!


GTO Geo

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I’m not arguing right or wrong, and yes it would seem he is not going with a larger engine so yes I am wrong (my gosh I’ve been wrong before). I’m sure I’ll bE wrong again and guess what the sun will come up! LOL! You do realize I gave my opinion, going off what I’ve seen on the show! His last 5 races/Laps he made he lost 4 of them. He said he has other ways of dealing with the more powerful/faster car, ok cool. I’m glad he is stepping up to a better head, he should have done it for Indy! I’ll still say 520+ cubes and a pair of turbos are the way to go.....you can never have too much power! You know there is nothing wrong with giving an opinion (right or wrong) as long as it doesn’t harm someone!!


GTO George

Im just amazed at how you wont just drop something after finding out you were wrong about it.. Its that part of your opinion that becomes painful to keep reading about..

520 cubes with 2 big turbos is overkill for street racing . So you have 1 engine making 3000hp and the other making 4000hp but both can only put 2500hp to the pavement . Whats the difference? 1 guys got 500hp more in reserve the others got 1500hp . So for the street 500hp over the cliff is alot as even for the track for that matter ! Some race cars dont even have that big of a shot of NOS on there car! The only place that kind of power is good for is on a preped track.. And im talking about getting down the street reliably / consistently. Not I did it once back in the 90's!

And as for his new heads being the better choice? Well that remains to be seen. Lets not get too presumptuous here ... We will just have to wait and see....

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I’m not arguing right or wrong, and yes it would seem he is not going with a larger engine so yes I am wrong (my gosh I’ve been wrong before). I’m sure I’ll bE wrong again and guess what the sun will come up! LOL! You do realize I gave my opinion, going off what I’ve seen on the show! His last 5 races/Laps he made he lost 4 of them. He said he has other ways of dealing with the more powerful/faster car, ok cool. I’m glad he is stepping up to a better head, he should have done it for Indy! I’m not a turbo guy but I do know boost and I do now racecars and I do know Racing! I’ll still say 520+ cubes and a pair of turbos are the way to go.....you can never have too much power! You know there is nothing wrong with giving an opinion (right or wrong) as long as it doesn’t harm someone!!


GTO Geo

Wrong again...you can have too much power for the street...

Last night it was mentioned that Ryan has 4000 available but about the most that can be used is 2500 on the street and even that is ramped in...

You really don’t understand how a little old E-head 482. An whip up on that do you...
The road is the equalizer... I whip plenty of more powerful cars on the street...

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Wrong again...you can have too much power for the street...

Last night it was mentioned that Ryan has 4000 available but about the most that can be used is 2500 on the street and even that is ramped in...

You really don’t understand how a little old E-head 482. An whip up on that do you...
The road is the equalizer... I whip plenty of more powerful cars on the street...

Im glad you gave your opinion this is America! Racing on the street is dangerous, ill stick with the dragstrip and I know I've put way more passes on the dragstrip then most here, you can always dial back power but if you don't have it to begin with! Yes I do understands chiefs 482, Damn-it I've been RACING boosted engines for over 30 years! your not talking to a kid that sit behind a desk or computer. I work on my engines........I fix my engines....I don't pay someone to do it. My engine has been to KRE 1 time and one time only in the last 10-12 years! I do the work.......make the decisions.........buy the parts.......install the parts...........Fab a lot of my stuff.......DRIVE/RACE the racecar.......WIN the races, I been doing it for 40 plus years! I have my opinions, you have yours.....cool!


GTO George

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Wrong again...you can have too much power for the street...

Last night it was mentioned that Ryan has 4000 available but about the most that can be used is 2500 on the street and even that is ramped in...

You really don’t understand how a little old E-head 482. An whip up on that do you...
The road is the equalizer... I whip plenty of more powerful cars on the street...

LMFAO! Welcome to Georges word of DELUSION!!hahaha

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by charlie66

LMFAO! Welcome to Georges word of DELUSION!!hahaha

Kids! LOL!
You guys are right....i know nothing! LOL! Is it ok if I still race a little?

GTO George

[ho428]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Kids! LOL!
You guys are right....i know nothing! LOL! Is it ok if I still race a little?

GTO George

It is if you'll zip it.
It's tiring as he** to try and read a thread when it's full of your babble.
First "You're right and everyone else is wrong" then its only "your opinion"
I'd give you my opinion but I'd get banned.

I'm done here.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by ho428

It is if you'll zip it.
It's tiring as he** to try and read a thread when it's full of your babble.
First "You're right and everyone else is wrong" then its only "your opinion"
I'd give you my opinion but I'd get banned.

I'm done here.

So........Seriously! Obviously you cant read.....just stating my opinion....sometimes I'm right and sometimes I'm wrong (just like everyone else).....get over it! I'm just replying to other peoples name calling (like yours) and opinions (like yours)! Everyone else can get on here and name call and sometimes lie and discredit other racers and companies and thats ok BUT i can't do it.....are you hearing yourself. You can come on here and talk about your round, round stuff (which is cool).... and I don't say anything, h_ll its your dime, you give your opinion all day long! So basically i have to agree with everyone on here to make you happy....well damn ill just do that! LOL! i apologize! For the record I've never attack you or called you names no matter if I agree with you or not....just saying! This isn't high school.

GTO George

[RA462]

I would have thought that he would have went with Visner cylinder heads. He was telling me about sticking his fingers in the ports getting all kinds of familiar when I ran into him at the PRI show (after season 1 of the TV show) lmao. I know it is a different car and everything but how is that new smaller engine working out for the Murder Nova at this point of the show? Hope he does well with the new combo.

[bpenrod]

Originally Posted by ho428

It is if you'll zip it.
It's tiring as he** to try and read a thread when it's full of your babble.
First "You're right and everyone else is wrong" then its only "your opinion"
I'd give you my opinion but I'd get banned.

I'm done here.

[charlie66]

I think when Murder Nova works the bugs out hes going to be at the top of the list....

[Chris Petersen]

Someone here says they know all about boost, and have been running boost for decades, but the issues I have is, if you have never ran a turbo(s) on a Pontiac, you surly dont know jack sh!t about boost. If they did, they would be running more than 11#

Someone might just want to stick to what they know, bracket racing. Or back peddling, does a lot of both.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Chris Petersen

Someone here says they know all about boost, and have been running boost for decades, but the issues I have is, if you have never ran a turbo(s) on a Pontiac, you surly dont know jack sh!t about boost. If they did, they would be running more than 11#

Someone might just want to stick to what they know, bracket racing. Or back peddling, does a lot of both.

If it any of your business, I’m running 11 because that’s all I want to run (Bracket car) and that’s all my 8-71 will put out and I’m not going larger blower. So you are correct I know nothing about boost because I’m only running 11 lbs. and don’t run turbos. Boost is not rocket science.


GTO George