[Aaron Quinton]

Exactly what I'd say if someone called you out and you we're a scared little Biotch without a car or driving capability or both. LOL

You bring you're crap with you driving half way and I'm down. If you actually back up your challenge, bring your crap down to my road as you claimed. Prior info applies, prior digits apply, no response from an alligator mouth with a tad pole ass expected.

But you might have a buddy, of a buddy, with a promod that can ..... LOL

MICETTFMF!

Originally Posted by PAUL K

I already tried that! With your bassackwards way of setting up a race and your bargain rates, I'd highly recommend for you not to hold your breath waiting for the phone to ring.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

It’s a canted valve head vs an inline head. It should!

But it’s not any better then a good set of E heads.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...light=wideport

How does a car get #100 heavier from swapping heads?

We'll... swapping from stock block to ia2 would be about right.

For all the years they have been out there sure are not a lot of them out there racing.

There are quite a few out there, many using them and happy vs coming on here and getting insulted.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Still, have not seen anything yet that a good set of E heads can not do. Fulton was 7.71 with a "average" set of wide ports. I believe with a true high end WP he would be a bit quicker and that puts him where he is with CVs. Tenth, tenth and a half.
They might get past it one day, but as of now they are equal.
A canted intake valve with PMD exhaust does not make sense. Its sorta like the head is tying one hand behind their back.
BTW, is anyone running the billet CV2. Have not heard of anyone myself.

... you really need to stop drinking that libtard koolaid man, you are really stretching chit ... especially considering you don't have a clue what you're talking about concerning Fulton's car, hell you talk like it's your car and not his for christ sakes, what the hell is wrong with you ??? ...

... and you seem so quick to give opinion on canted valve heads, so tell me, how many heads have you designed and manufactured ??? Ummmm Yeah, zero lol ...

... as far as what Fulton made with what head and when, i'll just suggest you ask him to post those results, so they'll be 100% user information, but you're not gonna like what he tells you about his "HIGH END" Gaby Eheads buddy ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

He kinda implied that he has little spare time and reliability is everything. Being #1 on the list is of utmost importance and its a big risk to try something major this season.
IMO, at best the CV will be tested in his short off season.

The expression "Living the Dream" is sort of his life right now it seems. Dedicated hard core high end street racer gets paid big dollars and made famous doing something he was forking out big bucks to do while working a job.
It is his job now, hard to beat that.

... and you obviously know all that information from your many conversations with him i'm assuming right ??? ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Dons heads have not had a bunch of running big power examples. They are on their way I hear.
The H&M head is going to be eye opening IMO when the big engine gets up and going. Billet block, Hemi bottom end I think and 520+cfm straight as can be ports with separate exhaust. The engine that was running for awhile had very even EGTs with a huge roots blower which is something.
I had someone send a pic of Daves new raised port RAV to Chiefs cell. Never heard anything back.
The billet block, billet head RAV would be as close as you can come with a Pontiac to the giant, billet this, billet that engines he goes up against.

... so why don't you tell everyone what your favorite head porter thinks of the RAV design ??? ... Hummmmmmm ??? ... and more importantly what his immediate plans were for them ....

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

What does Twin have to do with anything I wrote ? What does PZ have to do with any opinion you "think" I have of him ?
I have heard more sh!t talk around here about the man to tell you the truth.
He did not design the CV did he ?
Very little, if any things I have said about the head have anything to do with Bill.
I made peace with the guy, let it rest.
What I am saying is the head now has to prove it. Has not been done before so proving is not anything out of the ordinary.
Just do it, people will give credit where it is due and I will send you your 50 bucks.
Simple.

... you made peace with me ??? ... when did this happen ??? ... you're an idiot, i would never make peace with someone like you, lmao ...

[Dragncar]

Holey CRA%. Bur under your saddle Bill.
I was being kind nice.

BTW, I looked at the old thread that Bruce brought up and did a little reading. George was blasting E heads back in 2013.
Too much.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Currently, calling the CV-1 a better head than the E head is debatable at best. Until someone makes more power than Mike did NA or Rodney Butler has with his Wide Port twin turbo its kind of hard to do.
In that old closed thread about Bruce calling me out on the CV-1s is was stated that Mike did not switch in part that it was a lateral move, equal. And that guy knows his heads.
Not saying Chiefs new CVs won't make more power than his std E heads, they have 100 more CFM.
They have to be reliable, not burn plugs or crack seats ect. 40lbs of boost can make a small problem a big one real quick.
That will be the test, its a prove it world and Chiefs is a big money world com paired to us po folk.
He just moved up to #1 with a 350 E head, still..........

... you really need to leave Leech out of your posts, because you do not have a clue what he stated to me on the phone many times actually about that topic, a lateral move ?? My ass !!! Was i offering to supply my 572 in ready to run form, YES ... but Mike also totally expected the Bird to go faster with the 572 in the car, and that's a fact, his exact words actually ... but he had prior endeavors under way with other heads that he said he needed to finish before we could run the 572 in his car, and i told him given his car, determination and people he had working with/for him that it was worth it for me to wait, which is exactly what i was doing ...

... you really don't have a clue what you're talking about ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by BrandX

hi guys! not much changed around here lol. I would like to add a few facts, and spread some truth in this thread (that seems flooded with misinformation and misguided opinions lol).


First thing first, yes those are my cv heads in the pic that was posted. We started this project in 2016 i believe, and because of the brutal racing schedule
and non stop abuse that i put my parts thru....the heads have gone thru some lengthy processes in order to get where we are today. In roland racing defense, i’m also an @ssshole drag racer. Which means, im very impatient and i’m not the average pontiac cylinder head customer. I race the absolute biggest race of my life, twice a week for 29 weeks at a time. I can’t have downtime, and i don’t have time to r and d / quality check other people’s products (no matter how good of a deal i get). I only get a few weeks a year to try crazy new stuff and i don’t have the money to tear up my car and miss out on races. If my car ain’t winning races, i can’t bet on it, and in turn i don’t get paid. When the cv guys and myself sat down to talk details, they understood what i’m up against. And it’s my opinion, that they have done everything in their power in order to prepare that top end for a racer like me. When it comes to the internet, especially pontiac guys....you really only get one chance at having your hardware on a truly competitive car with a driver and crew that consistently turns win lights on against sbc/bbc, all fords, and even 481x’s and monster billet n20 mills.

I don’t have the top end in my hands yet but you can bet your ass, the minute i get the combo in front of me...i will be begging for a few weeks off to go testing with it.

The engine in my car now is the same engine i’ve had for years. I recently ordered a new block and same e head combo up top, just to have new castings (mine are pretty wore out lol) and with the schedule we have nowadays i have always been a little worried about not having a spare engine to swap out, in case i get a little wild with the loud pedal. The new engine is a little smaller in order to fit some of the bigger payout class rules should i ever choose to class race it.


I feel the cv top end has a lot of potential hp gains. I’ve never doubted that. But i’ve proven over and over again that hp ain’t everything. I’ll take reliable parts over big power any day of the week. As long as the thing will stay together, i can test test test until i figure out how to win with it. Who cares how much power it makes, if you can’t make it to the finals and you got no spares to fix it. Thats the main reason i’ve never switched out the eheads for
something “better”. The cv guys understand the demands placed on my equipment, and they have made adjustments so that i get the best of both worlds. HP and Reliabilty. The results will speak for themselves. Let’s face it, there isn’t anyone i can call and order a top end upgrade for a twin turbo 9400 rpm 3 second nitro breathing traditional pontiac door car lol.

... we absolutely can't wait to get there ... it's gonna be a trip ...

[Anderson Port Development]

... looking forward to a long trip ... should be an absolute blast !!! ...

... just some dirty garage mock up pics, but thought you guys might like the update ...

[Dragncar]

Twin, are you drunk ? I stopped drinking over a year ago. Try it, you will feel better, argue less, its a good thing.
I doubt there is any more space in your head to rent out, its all taken.
Lot of good porters out there, you must not suck at it because you would not be employed where you are.
I forgot that DFs 474 was a 455 block, that is really impressive. 7.71 is moving with a 455 and wide ports.
Big bearings and all.
Let me guess, Bruce called you up and sicked you on me just like he did in the call out thread. Same MO.
I am sure the new engine will make big power, how can it not.
Nice look stuff BTW.

[69Goat1]

I am just glad you wrote Pontiac all over those valve covers so maybe viewers wouldn’t think he went Ford in his car...if they ever make it on the show...

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Aaron Quinton

Exactly what I'd say if someone called you out and you we're a scared little Biotch without a car or driving capability or both. LOL

You bring you're crap with you driving half way and I'm down. If you actually back up your challenge, bring your crap down to my road as you claimed. Prior info applies, prior digits apply, no response from an alligator mouth with a tad pole ass expected.

But you might have a buddy, of a buddy, with a promod that can ..... LOL

MICETTFMF!

Keep the mouth flapping and work some overtime so you can afford to race...

Mice & peace out Bro!

[slowbird]

Who cares about facts when you can read between the lines and make up you own facts.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Twin, are you drunk ? I stopped drinking over a year ago. Try it, you will feel better, argue less, its a good thing.
I doubt there is any more space in your head to rent out, its all taken.
Lot of good porters out there, you must not suck at it because you would not be employed where you are.
I forgot that DFs 474 was a 455 block, that is really impressive. 7.71 is moving with a 455 and wide ports.
Big bearings and all.
Let me guess, Bruce called you up and sicked you on me just like he did in the call out thread. Same MO.
I am sure the new engine will make big power, how can it not.
Nice look stuff BTW.

Bill doesn't drink, do drugs or smoke pot. He is honest direct and yes sometimes quite brutal with the truth. No political correctness from him for sure.

By the way, I didn't call him either(been about a week maybe, I m not going to look up my call history).
I'm perfectly fine fighting my own battles yet not offended if someone steps in and helps.
Who's the one who cries about being "po' folk"(Mike Leech hated hearing stuff like that) , cries about being called out by people with cars 3 seconds faster, etc..
If you spent half the time you spend here working a second job, you might have more race car money.
Don't want to add a cage to your gto... Don't make it a race car use something else. No one but YOU can change your situation.
I suspect you'll ignore all the above.

[chiefbigb]

Tough reading when people keep restating the obvious. There are some very smart people on this board and allot more people who think they are smart. This makes the smart people a minority and they become open to criticism from the majority. Some of the smart people tend not to post much because they know what they are talking about and don't feel the need to defend what they know is fact. Some post to help and get beat down by speculators who know or talk to people that have experience when they themselves have none. The drama can be amusing at times but other than that allot of crap.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...light=wideport


We'll... swapping from stock block to ia2 would be about right.

There are quite a few out there, many using them and happy vs coming on here and getting insulted.

Fulton had an aftermarket block in the car when he had the E heads on it.

Nobody is going to insult anyone, unless they have it coming!

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... looking forward to a long trip ... should be an absolute blast !!! ...

... just some dirty garage mock up pics, but thought you guys might like the update ...

You there yet lol or is that coming up?
Nice pics.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Aaron Quinton

How slow am I? Come over and find out. The contact info is out there. My phone has still not buzzed.

Norwalk, $500 on the track.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Fulton had an aftermarket block in the car when he had the E heads on it.

Nobody is going to insult anyone, unless they have it coming!

474 was not aftermarket block.
You've insulted many who didn't deserve it.