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Old 03-17-2020, 11:09 PM
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The acorn has indeed hit Chicken Little in the head!

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The Italians are warning us not to make the same mistake that they did... underestimating the potential. I understand that the death rate has leveled out there to about 350 people a DAY. Hopefully, we will never see those kinds of numbers.
Frankly, I don't see how it can be contained. It could be on your mail for instance, the gas pump, the debit device where you put your pin in, etc.,etc. etc.
I hear that the millenials are in Florida by the thousands right now. It's spring break. They'll bring it back to all parts of the country.

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Old 03-18-2020, 03:23 AM
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Just to put the numbers in perspective.

If the virus killed a MILLION people a DAY .... it would take 22 years to depopulate the earth ... and that is not counting reproduction ... so at least 25 years.

If it kills 10,000 people a day ... it would take 2,192 years to kill everyone, in other words, it never would, we reproduce way faster than that.

If it kills 10,000 people a day, your odds of dying from the virus any given day would be 1/800,000.

If it killed One Million people total in the US, your odds of being a victim (not taking age into consideration) would be 1/350 or 0.2% of the population ... not 2% .. 0.2%.

Whenever something like this is being discussed you need to keep the numbers in perspective.

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As of right now 54 dead in Washington from covid19, more than double of any other state. 10 confirmed cases at the big flying tube company I work for and we are still expected to work? It is serious here!!! Adding a few pics to lighten the mood.
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Old 03-18-2020, 07:54 AM
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Went to the grocery store last night and aside from toilet paper, there were no shortages. The CEO of the paper products company was on the news, saying that there will be stock on the shelves shortly. They just couldn't keep up with the craziness, but they have the raw materials and capacity to crank out the product. Everything else, like milk and eggs, etc., are already re-stocked.

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Old 03-18-2020, 12:44 PM
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It's only a matter of time until this thread ends up in the clubhouse for obvious reasons. No I am not worried about the virus. I am worried about the mass hysteria the media is causing.
I agree so some perspective.

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COVD-19
cases 7,038
Deaths 97
declared a national emergency last week
Panic level = mass hysteria

HN1N virus
U.S. cases 60.8MILLION
U.S. deaths 12,469
Declared a national emergency after 1,000 deaths
Panic level= TOTALLY CHILL!

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I understand that people need to have a place to discuss the issue, but please keep the political remarks out of this discussion - they aren't allowed in the Lobby. There's another discussion going on in the Clubhouse, you can go there if that's what you want to talk about.

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Just read some very encouraging information concerning the treatment of COVID-19. Researchers in France have discovered that using the drug combination of hydroxychloroquine (anti-malarial) and azithromycin(anti-biotic) is very effective in combating the COVID-19 virus IF detected early. Their clinical study has shown a nearly 100% cure rate using these drugs to combat early stage infections.

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Interesting. The anti-biotic must be treating secondary infection since it would have no effect on a virus. And Malaria is a single cell parasitic infestation, unsure how medication for that would interact with a virus.

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Interesting. The anti-biotic must be treating secondary infection since it would have no effect on a virus. And Malaria is a single cell parasitic infestation, unsure how medication for that would interact with a virus.
One of the properties of hydroxychloroquine is as an anti-viral. COVID-19 is a single celled viral organism.

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Please do not let anyone run this into the clubhouse. Maybe ADMIN's can delete offensive posts. Not everyone goes to the clubhouse. One thing having an opinion, another putting down opposing ones as hysteria, moronic etc.

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One thing I see in this post so far is that NOBODY that has posted has the virus. I was hoping that someone would have some perspective on what this really is and all that is here is internet statistics.

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One thing I see in this post so far is that NOBODY that has posted has the virus. I was hoping that someone would have some perspective on what this really is and all that is here is internet statistics.
I recall reading a post on this site in February of this year where someone described a horrific experience with a flu-pneumonia. I think they were 40 years old and thought they were literally going to die. I wonder if they could have had coronavirus and not known what it was??

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One of the properties of hydroxychloroquine is as an anti-viral. COVID-19 is a single celled viral organism.
You are correct sir.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have been recommended by Chinese and South Korean health authorities for the treatment COVID-19.[11] [12] In vitro studies have demonstrated that hydroxychloroquine is more potent than chloroquine against SARS-CoV-2 with a more tolerable safety profile.[13]

On 16 March 2020, advisor to the French Government on COVID-19, Professor Didier Raoult, announced that a trial involving 24 patients from the south east of France supported the claim that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment for COVID-19.[14] [15] An amount of 600 mg of hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) was administered to these patients every day for 10 days. The drug appeared to be responsible for a "rapid and effective speeding up of their healing process, and a sharp decrease in the amount of time they remained contagious".[16]

On March 17 after testing in several hospitals around Italy the Italian Pharmaceutical Agency has included hydroxychloroquine in the list of drugs with positive preliminary results for treatment of coronavirus disease 2019.[17]

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Old 03-18-2020, 04:35 PM
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You are correct sir.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have been recommended by Chinese and South Korean health authorities for the treatment COVID-19.[11] [12] In vitro studies have demonstrated that hydroxychloroquine is more potent than chloroquine against SARS-CoV-2 with a more tolerable safety profile.[13]

On 16 March 2020, advisor to the French Government on COVID-19, Professor Didier Raoult, announced that a trial involving 24 patients from the south east of France supported the claim that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment for COVID-19.[14] [15] An amount of 600 mg of hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) was administered to these patients every day for 10 days. The drug appeared to be responsible for a "rapid and effective speeding up of their healing process, and a sharp decrease in the amount of time they remained contagious".[16]

On March 17 after testing in several hospitals around Italy the Italian Pharmaceutical Agency has included hydroxychloroquine in the list of drugs with positive preliminary results for treatment of coronavirus disease 2019.[17]
I’d like to see a larger clinical group, but the results out of France are encouraging to say the least.

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I'm 62 years old and have Diffuse idiopathic skeletal hyperostosis (DISH). It sounds worse than it is, it's basically a form of arthritis. I've got calcium deposits building up on the vertebrae in my neck. One of the effects is that it creates a tickle in the back of my throat, so I end up clearing my throat a lot and cough more when pollen is high. Well, I live in NC and pollen is everywhere. I went to a gas station last weekend to buy gas for my mower, and I cleared my throat and coughed, drawing the stare of everybody nearby. I felt like a leper. I've been working from home for the last week to protect myself but to also avoid stressing out co-workers.

I live southwest of Raleigh NC. Five of the first seven cases confirmed in NC were Biogen employees who picked the virus up at a convention in Mass. I'm about 7 - 8 miles away from Biogen, and there are a lot of Research Triangle Park employees living in my area. With my age, I'm not taking any chances and other than daily walks, I have isolated myself since Saturday. I will really miss my trips to Texas Roadhouse, but I'll survive.

My employer has cut all travel, even between local facilities, so some things are just being delayed. I was planning to go to western NC for some product testing, and then to Pittsburg in early summer. Both of those trips have been postponed indefinitely. My management also sent out an email and asked anyone that could work from home to do so, they have implemented nightly disenfecting procedures by the cleaning crew, and anyone with a fever or signs of sickness are being sent home immediately. We have also been told we can take unpaid leave of absence if we would like. During 2008, my employer made everyone take one week a quarter off as an unpaid absence. I'm expecting them to announce a similar policy starting in the second quarter. I think this will end up pushing my retirement out another six months or so, maybe longer. I was mostly out of the stock market when this hit, but the investments I didn't sell have been whacked hard.

I feel for all of the people who earn their income in retail, restaurants, and entertainment industry. I think before this is over, there will be a lot of pain inflicted on those who can least afford it.

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A recent video released by CBS News on Wednesday that shows a number of spring breakers in Miami, Fla. downplaying concerns about the COVID-19 outbreak has sparked viral criticism online.

It’s really messing up with my spring break.

If I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I’m not going to let it stop me from partying.

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Old 03-18-2020, 08:33 PM
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How about some good news for a change?
-China has closed down its last coronavirus hospital. Not enough new cases to support them.
- Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest same medicine, globally.
- Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody against coronavirus.
- A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China
- Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives results in hours, not days.
- Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is declining.
- Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.
- Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus vaccine.
- 3 Maryland coronavirus patients fully recovered; able to return to everyday life.
- A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent progress in Covid-19 research.
- A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.
- Tulsa County's first positive COVID-19 case has recovered. This individual has had two negative tests, which is the indicator of recovery.
- All 7 patients who were getting treated for at Safdarjung hospital in New Delhi have recovered.
- Plasma from newly recovered patients from Covid -19 can treat others infected by Covid-19.
So it's not all bad news. Let's care for each other and stay focused on safety of those most vulnerable.
(This is from a text I got from my surgeon friend in NYC. BTW, I posted sources that I could find below. I wish you all good health in these crazy times. Please post your own good news in comments below!)

----SOURCES----
-China has closed down its last coronavirus hospital. Not enough new cases to support them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...workers-remov…
- Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest same medicine, globally.
https://www.businesstoday.in/…/coron...ry/397941.html
- Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody against coronavirus.
https://www.universal-sci.com/…/dutc...ts-claim-to-h…
- A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Chines...her-103-recov…
- Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives results in hours, not days.
https://www.cleveland19.com/…/clevel...s-new-corona…/
- Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is declining.
https://inews.co.uk/…/coronavirus-so...new-cases-dec…
- Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.
https://www.nytimes.com/…/eu…/corona...y-elderly.html
- Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus vaccine.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com.../74592807.cms…
- 3 Maryland coronavirus patients fully recovered; able to return to everyday life.
https://www.fox5dc.com/…/3-maryland-...s-patients-fu…
- A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent progress in Covid-19 research.
https://montrealgazette.com/…/corona...dian-research…
- A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.
https://www.cbs8.com/…/509-110c3c4f-...b2df-663789db…
- Tulsa County's first positive COVID-19 case has recovered. This individual has had two negative tests, which is the indicator of recovery.
https://kfor.com/…/report-first-pers...-positive-fo…/
- All 7 patients who were getting treated for at Safdarjung hospital in New Delhi have recovered.
https://kalingatv.com/…/coronavirus-...ed-cases-in-…/
- Plasma from newly recovered patients from Covid -19 can treat others infected by Covid-19.
https://www.statnews.com/…/how-blood...om-recovered…/

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I understand that people need to have a place to discuss the issue, but please keep the political remarks out of this discussion - they aren't allowed in the Lobby. There's another discussion going on in the Clubhouse, you can go there if that's what you want to talk about.
Thank you! I purposely started this thread here rather than the club house so it would get more participation. There is NOTHING political about the current issue we are facing. And it was not my intent to create political disparity.

I simply thought that when facing an issue so severe, that we'd finally be able to be honest and forthright about what's going on where you live, or about who you know.

I, as a long time member of this board, respect the rules and would never attempt an underhanded assault against the rules.

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China shuts all.... temporary.... coronavirus hospitals.

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