[roger1]

Got my Borgeson 800130 from Ames. Not too many miles driven with it yet but it feels great so far.

[steve]

I guess Ames it is. don't have the funds for a 1k box right now

[1968GTO421]

I looked through my Ames print catalog and noticed they had two Borgeson boxes, one for $399 (manual) and one for $549 ( 12.7:1 RATIO. 3 TURNS LOCK TO LOCK).
The other boxes from $299 up into the $400's were re-manufactured boxes requiring a core charge and core sent back in. I suppose the quality of the re-builder vs Borgeson quality would make alot of the final decision to buy from Ames. On the other hand, curently, Borgeson is offering ther 12.7 box for A-bodies for $467.78 and has a 3 year warranty. Which to get
If I didn't have other priority things to do on my GTO first ($$$$), I would opt for the Borgeson deal now along with their new rag-joint. FWIW

https://www.borgeson.com/Borgeson-St...7-1-Ratio.html

[grivera]

Originally Posted by 1968GTO421

Which to get
If I didn't have other priority things to do on my GTO first ($$$$), I would opt for the Borgeson deal now along with their new rag-joint. FWIW

https://www.borgeson.com/Borgeson-St...7-1-Ratio.html

The one in the link is the one to get - Borgeson 800130. It is a great box and money well spent. Rebuilt boxes can be hit or miss.

[roger1]

Part of my decision to get it from Ames is that they don't charge sales tax for Texas residents. I hope that is still true. I haven't purchased anything from Ames since last fall.

[grivera]

Originally Posted by roger1

Part of my decision to get it from Ames is that they don't charge sales tax for Texas residents. I hope that is still true. I haven't purchased anything from Ames since last fall.

It’s my understanding online retailers have to charge sales tax if their yearly sales to a particular state are at least 100k - not sure if that’s still true.

A good option is Summit Racing as they have free shipping on orders above $99, match prices and here is a 10% coupon code for Summit good through 6/17/23

[JLBIII]

Originally Posted by grivera

A good option is Summit Racing as they have free shipping on orders above $99, match prices and here is a 10% coupon code for Summit good through 6/17/23

Just tried the coupon and it says it's invalid. Well it was worth a try. Thanks!

[Schurkey]

Originally Posted by 1968GTO421

https://www.borgeson.com/Borgeson-St...7-1-Ratio.html

Fits the following GM vehicle platforms. 1978-1988 G-Body, 1967-1992 F-Body, 1982-1993 S10, 1964-1981 A Body, 1968-1979 X Body. Camaro. Chevelle. Nova.

Given that the F and X bodies have totally-different steering stops than the A-bodies, I don't know how one part number can fit both styles.

If I were in the market, I'd be contacting Borgeson to find out which steering stops they're actually using--and therefore the number of degrees of Pitman arm travel the box allows.

[1968GTO421]

Originally Posted by Schurkey

Given that the F and X bodies have totally-different steering stops than the A-bodies, I don't know how one part number can fit both styles.

If I were in the market, I'd be contacting Borgeson to find out which steering stops they're actually using--and therefore the number of degrees of Pitman arm travel the box allows.

Shurkey:
Can you advise the number of Pitman arm degrees a 1968 A-body (GTO) should have? That would be extremely helpful when talking to Borgeson about the steering stops.
Thank you much!

[69gtocv]

Originally Posted by 1968GTO421

Shurkey:
Can you advise the number of Pitman arm degrees a 1968 A-body (GTO) should have? That would be extremely helpful when talking to Borgeson about the steering stops.
Thank you much!

If you are going to call Borgeson about these boxes, would you ask them if they'll give you the specs on the torsion bar they put in these boxes please? As in the thickness of it (like .210 or .220) or the valve weight it takes to rotate (like 30-35#s). Thanks, Jeff

[69gtocv]

Originally Posted by Schurkey

Given that the F and X bodies have totally-different steering stops than the A-bodies, I don't know how one part number can fit both styles.

If I were in the market, I'd be contacting Borgeson to find out which steering stops they're actually using--and therefore the number of degrees of Pitman arm travel the box allows.

I just saw a question/answer on Summit about this. Here is Borgesons reply:

Borgeson Universal 800130 - Borgeson Universal Street and Performance Series Steering Boxes
There are two different steering radius applications: One for a Camaro and one for a Chevelle. The Camaro box has internal stops to limit the turning radius. How do I know which box I am getting? I already received a box for my Chevelle with the Camaro internal stops and it sucks. The specs on this box say that it's for a Camaro OR a Chevelle.

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Our box has a full 88 degrees of rotation to allow it to fit multiple applications. Our box relies on the steering stops on the vehicles lower control arms. You will not have nay loss of turning radius with our steering box.

[David Jones]

Originally Posted by steve

going to replace my leaking steering box. I see Ames carries a quick ratio box at 2.6 turns and the regular one is 4 turns. anyone tried this quick ratio box and have an opinion ? summit sells one for almost 500. the Ames one is 269 and the regular one is 99.

There are rebuilders that can turn your box into whatever ratio you want, remove or add steering stops etc.

[jonmachota78]

Red-Head Steering Gears
https://redheadsteeringgears.com/

[grivera]

Well that stinks - maybe certain brands are excluded

[JLBIII]

Originally Posted by grivera

Well that stinks - maybe certain brands are excluded

My bad Will. It worked this time. Thanks (I think) spent more than I should have, again.

[grivera]

Originally Posted by JLBIII

My bad Will. It worked this time. Thanks (I think) spent more than I should have, again.

Excellent

[69gtocv]

Originally Posted by JLBIII

My bad Will. It worked this time. Thanks (I think) spent more than I should have, again.

You got lucky! I just tried that 10% code and Summit told me it could only be used once and it must have been you!

[grivera]

Originally Posted by 69gtocv

You got lucky! I just tried that 10% code and Summit told me it could only be used once and it must have been you!

You may have to call in- that code is on a catalog I got from the Cruisin’ Ocean City Maryland event and thousands of people likely have the same one.

[69gtocv]

Originally Posted by grivera

You may have to call in- that code is on a catalog I got from the Cruisin’ Ocean City Maryland event and thousands of people likely have the same one.

I didn't call in but I did a chat session about it. They wouldn't budge so I told them I would go elsewhere. Ended up getting one from Jegs at a discount as well.

[pontiacs-r-us]

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