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Old 10-06-2023, 11:34 AM
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Yes engine is included with the car just no transmission. He swears its the original engine and it was originally a dual 4 barrel car. He is 2nd owner though. Said the original owner ordered it specifically to drag race which is what it was most of its life. Hard telling till i actually get there and look at numbers. Wont be able to get to it till next weekend.
Most of the cars that were exclusively race cars turn up now with between 3000 and 5000 miles on them, in my experience.

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Old 10-06-2023, 10:53 AM
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I'm thinking at least half the asking price for a rebuildable 421.

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Old 10-09-2023, 08:14 PM
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Always loved the 63's. They're my fav year of the 60's Battleships.

As others have said, $2800 for that car with the original 421 is all win.

Hope you get it!

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Old 10-06-2023, 10:58 AM
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It may be hard to read, but this is a page from Pete McCarthy's book for the engine codes for 1963. The HO and SD engines are at the very bottom but there are a number of regular 421 engines too. The chart also includes the head codes, intakes, whether the engine was used with a manual or automatic transmission, etc.

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Old 10-06-2023, 11:35 AM
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It may be hard to read, but this is a page from Pete McCarthy's book for the engine codes for 1963.
Stuart - the pages are not falling out of your book?

Tsk, tsk.

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Old 10-06-2023, 12:22 PM
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If it comes with a legitimate 421 engine, even if it's not an SD I'd buy it. If it is an SD engine, it's the deal of the year.

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Stuart - the pages are not falling out of your book?

Tsk, tsk.

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Hey, so I'm careful with my stuff.

On the other hand, my 1961 parts catalog has a lot of loose pages and gets a little worse every time I pull it off the shelf.

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What automatic transmission would have came in this car? Original is missing and would like to start to hunt for a replacement. Thanks

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The slim Jim is the automatic used in 1963. You don't want one those.

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Old 10-10-2023, 08:08 AM
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What automatic transmission would have came in this car? Original is missing and would like to start to hunt for a replacement. Thanks
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The slim Jim is the automatic used in 1963. You don't want one those.
This, this, thisity this this!

You'd want to find a THM400 and stick in there.

Or maybe an overdrive auto depending on your intended usage.

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Old 10-06-2023, 03:27 PM
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If you go to JohnTA's link above and scroll down a little it shows where the engine code is stamped on the block. For 1963 the VIN should be there as well. http://www.wallaceracing.com/enginesearch4.htm

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If this is a 421 powered 63 Cat I'd buy it at $2800. I had a chance to buy a 63 421 HO 4spd Cat. with tri color interior 20yrs ago and kick myself for passing on it.

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With a 63 block you will need a adapter to run a modern auto trans.Tom

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Old 10-10-2023, 08:10 AM
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With a 63 block you will need a adapter to run a modern auto trans.Tom
Or a starter mount plate if you can find a BOP pattern modern trans (which is what I did. My trans is from a '67 Riviera).

Denali - there is a mechanical drawing in the aforementioned Pete's book on how to make your own starter mounting plate.

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An old thread on adapter plates

Adapter Plates for early Pontiac

and another one where Gavin had blueprints

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Old 10-10-2023, 09:56 AM
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An old thread on adapter plates

Adapter Plates for early Pontiac

and another one where Gavin had blueprints

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Just clicking the "Thanks" button was not enough;

Thank you for linking those, John.

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Looks like it's for sale again, this time minus the 421. From the pictures, I don't think it's moved.....

https://www.facebook.com/share/1AwjN253T8/

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