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Old 10-11-2023, 03:27 AM
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From BES, their "small" program goes 450cfm.
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Butler had them on display at Norwalk.

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Gonna need coolant holes for the Street use huh. Wonder if they have the coolant passages?

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Butler had them on display at Norwalk.

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Did you get pics?

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they looked like dcars pics said roughly 10k with shafts etc castings looked fantastic you should go to norwalk more than once every 8 years lol

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they looked like dcars pics said roughly 10k with shafts etc castings looked fantastic you should go to norwalk more than once every 8 years lol
Yabthey quoted me 10-12 depending on options.
Pics are always nice to see. I'm curious about a couple things in the chambers and if the exhaust is really round like factory iron round ports are.

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BES web site 450 cfm heads

https://www.besracing.com/racing-eng...elbrock-victor

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I talked to AllPontiac a few weeks ago, at the time had one set left. They have a new foundry they are working with to make them, but may take awhile before production, as price is going up as well. From 6500 to 8500ish

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Nice pics but has softened chamber for pa, I'd like to see a non-softened chamber

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Was looking around on Butler and BES sites, I don't see where they advertise a 480cfm pro port head, just a 450-460 head and 52-54cc chamber.
Gach yours are 480cfm and 72cc??

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Was looking around on Butler and BES sites, I don't see where they advertise a 480cfm pro port head, just a 450-460 head and 52-54cc chamber.
Gach yours are 480cfm and 72cc??
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Was looking around on Butler and BES sites, I don't see where they advertise a 480cfm pro port head, just a 450-460 head and 52-54cc chamber.
Gach yours are 480cfm and 72cc??
Brian,
If you look at that web page it says "BES / Edelbrock Pontiac Victor Heads - Small Port Program" Maybe you need to call them about the bigger heads.

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If you look at that web page it says "BES / Edelbrock Pontiac Victor Heads - Small Port Program" Maybe you need to call them about the bigger heads.

Stan

PS - John Marcella got 466 @ .800 from his Pro Ports.
I have talked to the people that sell them, according to them the 450-460cfm port is it as far as they're cnc program and there is only 1 chamber. If you get it softened that gets it to 56cc. Nothing bigger, they dish the piston to set compression.
I know the heads can be made to flow more, but the cnc ports according to the people that sell them don’t.

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I have talked to the people that sell them, according to them the 450-460cfm port is it as far as they're cnc program and there is only 1 chamber. If you get it softened that gets it to 56cc. Nothing bigger, they dish the piston to set compression.
I know the heads can be made to flow more, but the cnc ports according to the people that sell them don’t.
Brian,
I seem to remember when this first came out that there was going to be a 450 cfm and 480 cfm.

Looking at Butler's web site it looks like they have downsized them.

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I seem to remember when this first came out that there was going to be a 450 cfm and 480 cfm.

Looking at Butler's web site it looks like they have downsized them.

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Most likely from lack of sales.... Or flow numbers LOL

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If you look at that web page it says "BES / Edelbrock Pontiac Victor Heads - Small Port Program" Maybe you need to call them about the bigger heads.

Stan

PS - John Marcella got 466 @ .800 from his Pro Ports.
He also got 462cfm out of High Ports !

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He also got 462cfm out of High Ports !
I'm willing to bet he didn't actually get that

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The highest I have for a KRE HP is 434 cfm. They had the push rod moved and were done by Dan Barton.

What ever happened with the new head KRE came out with a few years ago?

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