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Old 07-20-2024, 11:49 PM
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Default Rally II Wheel Tolerances

I'm in the process of deciding whether or not to restore a rusty set of 15x7 Rally II wheels. Before I spend too much time on prepping them, I'd like to know what are tolerances for runout. How oval shaped (is this called radial runout??) and how much side-to-side runout (is this called axial runout??) is allowable before it becomes problematic? And where should I be measuring this? I don't have a wheel balance machine, so I'm going to mount the naked wheel to front axle to do the measurements.

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Old 07-21-2024, 08:39 AM
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With a dial indicator, a good factory steel wheel would have 0-.015" lateral runnout measured at the bead sealing surface inside and outside. Radial runnout 0-.030" at the bead surface as well. When a wheel reaches double that amount of runnout. .030 lateral. .060 radial, it is not usable. Some can be straightened and returned to service by specialty wheel repair services.

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Old 07-21-2024, 09:15 AM
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damn. i always just got them from the junkyard and ran them without a second thought!

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Old 07-21-2024, 10:20 AM
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I tabulated the wheel radial and lateral specs from the '65-'70 service manuals. They are as mgarblik said but they also provided additional specs for combined radial and lateral runout. I attached some measurements I made of my Rally 1s to give you an idea what to expect. If the combined runouts are minimal, very little balancing weights required.
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damn. i always just got them from the junkyard and ran them without a second thought!
Before I met her, my wife went to a junk yard to purchase a set of Buick Rallye wheels for her 85 Regal. Her father and brother explained to her to roll the wheels and make sure they roll smoothly and don't wobble.... I thought that was very helpful of them.

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Old 09-02-2024, 06:20 PM
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Thanks for the specs. I finally got around to measuring mine. 2 are within specs, and 2 are slightly out of spec in the radial runout. Approximately 0.50 radial runout. Is this still useable, or will there be a lot of vibrations?

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Oops! I meant 0.050 radial runout.

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Old 09-02-2024, 09:15 PM
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Before I met her, my wife went to a junk yard to purchase a set of Buick Rallye wheels for her 85 Regal. Her father and brother explained to her to roll the wheels and make sure they roll smoothly and don't wobble.... I thought that was very helpful of them.
Seems excessive 🤣

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Thanks for the specs. I finally got around to measuring mine. 2 are within specs, and 2 are slightly out of spec in the radial runout. Approximately 0.50 radial runout. Is this still useable, or will there be a lot of vibrations?
With a careful balance and nice, round tires, they will be fine IMO. I just balanced a set of old Corvette knock off wheels this weekend. They are heavy Kelsey Hayes wheels. 2 of them were out of spec. slightly like your rally wheels. But they performed just fine on the car.

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damn. i always just got them from the junkyard and ran them without a second thought!
With three solid lug nuts.

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With three solid lug nuts.
Speaking of lug nuts, it don't matter
whether the rim is within spec if the
lug holes are heavily wallowed out.

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Speaking of lug nuts, it don't matter
whether the rim is within spec if the
lug holes are heavily wallowed out.
Not true!! They roll down the road a lot nicer after they come flying off the car when the runout is correct!!!

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Speaking of lug nuts, it don't matter
whether the rim is within spec if the
lug holes are heavily wallowed out.
That's why they have 5 holes. So you can use the three best ones.

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That's why they have 5 holes. So you can use the three best ones.
Just like girlfriends!!

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