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Old 02-24-2025, 12:55 PM
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Heater hose goes to inner fender - either the rotisserie restoration was done by a Chevy guy, or it's smog pump is MIA. Chevy clutch pedal pad too. Windshield washer hose gets pinched by cowl seal. Couldn't find wingnuts for the air cleaners. Aloominium radiator and electric fan.
The only time the heater hose would travel over to the RH fender skirt on a ‘65 is on an air condition car.
No smog pump (A.I.R.) until ‘66.

Need to see a PHS on this car.

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Old 02-24-2025, 11:05 PM
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If your trim tag has code 97904 , that is defacto tiger gold.
2-2 usually means it also had a black top
Wow, Thanks alot, It does have that code on cowl tag, Can you Please advise how you know this info, Thanks again.

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If your trim tag has code 97904 , that is defacto tiger gold.
2-2 usually means it also had a black top
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Yep . 07-783 is what I came up with from it's document.

Wallace has this memo listed with it --
This dealership was owned by Bill Packer Sr. in addition to Packer Pontiac Detroit (later Auburn Hills)

Those guys were really high stepping in those new Tiger Gold cars in 65.

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Wow, Thanks alot, It does have that code on cowl tag, Can you Please advise how you know this info, Thanks again.
Tried to post cowl tag on your post, I was able to get it on mine, Thanks Again.

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Cool car.


The tag decode of the lower letters:

E - tinted glass
O - 2 tone paint

2LC
C - instrument panel pad ?
L - Muncie 4 sp

5N
N - GTO



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Old 02-25-2025, 08:28 AM
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Cool car.


The tag decode of the lower letters:

E - tinted glass
O - 2 tone paint

2LC
C - instrument panel pad ?
L - Muncie 4 sp

5N
N - GTO

Thanks Johntal, I was trying to post the cowl tag on Baron Von Zeppelin, To let him know It's a 65 GTO Tiger, I have the phs, But wanted thank him for his help. Thanks for your help also. Goat guys help each other out!

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Old 02-25-2025, 12:08 PM
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97904 is the Dupont paint mix formula number for Tiger Gold.
When they have that listed , it is for certain the special color was Tiger Gold.

I'm not too sure "O" in EO stands for 2-tone paint.
That doesn't quite jive right overall.
Possibly it is just the Fisher code that makes provisions for the molding group that divides a vinyl top or 2-tone paint scheme.

Im thinking the second 2 in 2-2 trim code is for black vinyl top.
It would be extremely ultra unusual to have a 2-tone with 2 different special order colors.
Don't think that would fly with the zone order proof readers.

Seymore might can scour his original 65 PMD build sheet and see if any of the numeric box groups list a code for 2-tone or vinyl top.
And we can decode your PHS document to see if it has one of those.

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Old 02-25-2025, 12:35 PM
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From the Ocala FL GTO on Clist

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. For sale is a very rare 1965 Pontiac GTO, 2-2 code. This was a promotion between Hurst and Pontiac there was only a hundred made tiger Gold with black vinyl top. It has the 389 tri-power engine with the manual Muncie 4 speed with a few rare options. The only other one that I know of was owned by Reggie Jackson and was sold last year at Mecum other than that one I do not know how many are left.
I do remember that Hurst had a promo campaign with Pontiac about the new Hurst Wheels.
Where you could order a set of the wheels as a dealer installed option and it would go onto the balance of your new car finance contract , aka part of your monthly car payment.

This car isn't wearing the wheels.

I can remember a couple of purpose built Hurst Promo cars in 65.
But I'm not familiar with 100 Black Vinyl Top Hurst promo cars.
Can anyone validate this ?

Not knocking his car.
If it has numbers drivetrain it's probably worth every penny he is asking for it.

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97904 is the Dupont paint mix formula number for Tiger Gold.
When they have that listed , it is for certain the special color was Tiger Gold.

I'm not too sure "O" in EO stands for 2-tone paint.
That doesn't quite jive right overall.
Possibly it is just the Fisher code that makes provisions for the molding group that divides a vinyl top or 2-tone paint scheme.

Im thinking the second 2 in 2-2 trim code is for black vinyl top.
It would be extremely ultra unusual to have a 2-tone with 2 different special order colors.
Don't think that would fly with the zone order proof readers.

Seymore might can scour his original 65 PMD build sheet and see if any of the numeric box groups list a code for 2-tone or vinyl top.
And we can decode your PHS document to see if it has one of those.
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I'm not for sure on the 'O' some stuff I have says 2 tone, some say the molding strip that separates the upper and lower halves.
Since it's on the cowl tag, it would pertain to the molding strip I guess.



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First I ever heard of 100 being made for contests. The reggie jackson car sold for a hammer price of $60,000 at the monteray 2024 auction. At least that is what is reported on the mecum website. Looks like a very nice restoration.

I always thought there was only one give away car, that being the infamous GeeTO Tiger with gold plated hurst wheels. Pretty sure it was in Bob Marvin's collection up until a few years ago. I read that Dana Mecum may have it now (?) Seems to have last been offered in 2022.

The CL ad strikes me as a difficult, unmotivated seller. I don't understand why people make these ads, demand 75k, and can only put 4 pictures up. His comparison to the Reggie Jackson car does not justify his asking price.

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That is a re-printed copy of an order sheet highlighted py PHS.
What we might need , is the Billing History Card , if Keith Seymore finds a 3 digit code on his PMD Plant build sheet that correlates.
I don't think there is , but maybe.

Congrats on having a specimen with TriPower 4spd and other good equipment.
What axle ratio was it built with ?

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That is a re-printed copy of an order sheet highlighted py PHS.
What we might need , is the Billing History Card , if Keith Seymore finds a 3 digit code on his PMD Plant build sheet that correlates.
I don't think there is , but maybe.

Congrats on having a specimen with TriPower 4spd and other good equipment.
What axle ratio was it built with ?
The buyer odered it with a 2:23 pos, (per phs) If you look on the cowl tag it has the dupont paint code you said was Tiger gold also it was built last week in June, Not sure if you got to see the tag, Its definatly on my posts, I am having trouble loading pics up on the py forum. also I do have the pmd plant build sheet, but its hard to make out very blury, Thanks

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First I ever heard of 100 being made for contests.
I think Pontiac used that combo in some ads for 65 GTO's.
But I don't remember if any were wearing Hurst wheels
But the seller , or a friend of his , added some poetic liberty into the mix involving Hurst with Tiger Gold.

Here is where part of his data comes from, an article published by AutoEvolution
Penned by Razvan Calin

" The division even offered a color scheme that reminded the customer of the majestic Asiatic feline. The Tiger Gold option had a yellow-and-black exterior with a black interior, and around 100 examples were sold in this chromatic combination. That is a rare find, no matter how we put it, and one of those examples is for sale.

...The car has changed hands several times since the Hall-of-Famer athlete sold it in 2009
Six years later, in 2015, the car was deemed worthy of $74,000, and two months ago, it was sold again for a nice, round $70,000. A month from now, it will go under the hammer once more at the Monterey auction. "

The Hurst Wheels could probably be incorporated into any Pontiac car sale in any car size or any car color by participating dealers via the Hurst Wheel campaign.

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The buyer odered it with a 2:23 pos, (per phs) If you look on the cowl tag it has the dupont paint code you said was Tiger gold also it was built last week in June, Not sure if you got to see the tag, Its definatly on my posts, I am having trouble loading pics up on the py forum. also I do have the pmd plant build sheet, but its hard to make out very blury, Thanks
Yes I saw your cowl tag pics. Bonafide
Probably meant 3.23 axle with Wide Ratio 4spd

The factory build sheet is an item that is only found within the car itself , on rare occasions.
Keith has a pristine example.
What you probably have is the Billing History Card from PHS.

It does seem like most of the Metal Roof Tiger Gold 65's I can recall had Black vinyl tops.
Probably more to do with the color ads in magazines prompting the choice.
That would add another chunk of coins to the sticker price on top of the extra charge for special paint.

Someone from back when might actually know if it was a requisite to get the vinyl top with that color , but I have my doubts about it.

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But I'm not familiar with 100 Black Vinyl Top Hurst promo cars.
Can anyone validate this ?
Could be mix-and-match recollection? Thom
McAn's Tiger Gold GTO contest soon followed.

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