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Hot 96 °sunny day at gainsville here are the results.This car normally runs 11.46@119 with Northwind intk and 3:42 gear 75° average temp.
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76 T/A 455, cnc chamber E heads,OF hyd roller ,yella terra shaft rockers 11.47 119 |
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Torque converter stall is only 2500 .A looser one would definitely have helped 60 ft
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2.73 gear isn't helping either?
![]() Looks like the right lane 1/8 lights are out of whack? Nice job on the runs!
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You think?The point is both intks manage to load the engine and produce the same torque.Anothet one of those open vs duel plane debates
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Did you test the 2.73 with the NW? That's a big change
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No,but I will next time.I think the paper filter is the restriction.It flowed 100 cfm less than being no filter.I could be wrong.I am impressed how the Edekbrock RPM intk continued to make power to 6000rpm .At the same time I pleased with the how the open plenum Shootout intk performed at low rpm.Both these intakes are ported.There is another restriction somewhere upstream it may be the 830 carb.I never shifted into 3rd during runs
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76 T/A 455, cnc chamber E heads,OF hyd roller ,yella terra shaft rockers 11.47 119 Last edited by joes455; 05-21-2025 at 07:46 PM. |
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Stock 68-71 iron would be data.
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95 Towncar that needs more TQ. Sold 2023: 12.24/111.6MPH/1.76 60'/28"/3.54:1/SP-TH400/469 R96A/236-244-112LC/1050&TorkerI//3850Lbs//15MPG/89oct Sold 2003: 12.00/112MPH/1.61 60'/26"x3.31:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Q-Jet-Torker/3650Lbs//18MPG 94oct Sold 1994: 11.00/123MPH/1.50 60'/29.5"x4.10:1/10"/469 #48/245-255-110LSA/Dual600s-Wenzler/3250Lbs//94oct |
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Good info thanks for sharing
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Very impressive with 2.73s and only 2500 stall
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Chris D 69 GTO Liberty Blue/dark blue T400, 9" w 3.50s, 3905lbs 461, 850 Holley, T2, KRE 310s, Comp HR 236/242D .572/.594L, RA manifolds, 11.53@114, 1.55/60 The spare: 467, 850 Holley, T2, Edelbrock Dport 310cfm w RA manifolds, Howard HFT 245/251D .561/.594L, 11.59@ 114, 1.57/ 60' |
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Going from 3.42:1 to 2.73:1 will slow that run down about .4 Going from 75 degree to 96 degree will slow that run down about .1 So that would be mid to high 11.9x Stan
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If I assume your car race ready with you in it tips the scales at 3800 lbs than on that 12.13 run at 116 you where making about 475 hp at the flywheel.
This would take only about 230 Cfm from each intake port. Nice times with that crappy rear gearing!
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I don't know where you get you math from Steve,but it chassie dyno at 510
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The mph shows you’ve got enough to run a mid 11 sec no problem. My gto at 4000lb ran a 11.7 at 115 but I had 3.70 gear and a Jim hand 10” converter for 1.65 60fts. That’s good for a 2.73 gear. Surprised the intakes were that close in et . I’ve heard that Holley intake is good for a single plane. I ran the torker 2 and had good low end response
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.45 @ 88.1 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.19 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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The car ran 11.47 @119 with 3.42.It required a roll bar,so to slow it down I installed a 2:73 .I love the manners on the highway.
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Extrapolating HP from weight and trap speed also includes aerodynamic loss which isnt found on a dyno ?
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Stan Weiss/World Wide Enterprises Offering Performance Software Since 1987 http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/carfor.htm David Vizard & Stan Weiss' IOP / Flow / Induction Optimization - Cam Selection Software http://www.magneticlynx.com/DV Download FREE 14 Trial IOP / Flow Software http://www.magneticlynx.com/DV/Flow_..._Day_Trial.php Pontiac Pump Gas List http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm Using PMD Block and Heads List http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_pmd.htm |
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Stan Weiss/World Wide Enterprises Offering Performance Software Since 1987 http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/carfor.htm David Vizard & Stan Weiss' IOP / Flow / Induction Optimization - Cam Selection Software http://www.magneticlynx.com/DV Download FREE 14 Trial IOP / Flow Software http://www.magneticlynx.com/DV/Flow_..._Day_Trial.php Pontiac Pump Gas List http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm Using PMD Block and Heads List http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_pmd.htm |
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My 78 TA at about 3900lbs with the 2.56 gear/TH350 and a 265-50-15 tire could run most of the road course at Texas World Speedway in 2nd! Stock 180 HP motor could only pull 4000 in 3rd-about 130 though!
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune [email protected] 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs 1964 Corvette Coupe 327 4 speed |
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I think I may have found some hidden power.My current aircleaner assy base plate is stock with a 3" filter,the lid is a turned upside down aftermarket edelbrock base plate,the empty hole is fitted with a homemade lid and tighten down with a wingnut.This gave some increased clearance between boosters and underside of lid but at high rpm would go lean 13.8.and very eratic.I removed the lid today and installed a tight mesh screen over the top a now a/f is 12.1 with what feels like more power.The airflow maybe more laminar greeting more pull on the booster.Will see next time at the track.
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