[JacintasHot]

I'll post photos tomorrow.
I think this meet may said record breaking low attendance numbers
Such a nice venue with everything pretty much indoors.
I don't understand why people fail to show

[RocktimusPryme]

Originally Posted by JacintasHot

I'll post photos tomorrow.
I think this meet may said record breaking low attendance numbers
Such a nice venue with everything pretty much indoors.
I don't understand why people fail to show

I didn't even know about it. I think many of the guys who run car events, be they drag strips or car shows are well meaning but don't know a ton about marketing to modern audiences.

Now that I'm aware it exists, I might try to swing over. Im about an hour and half from Louisville. Is it just a show, or are there vendors/swap meet stuff?

Maybe I didn't know about it because you have to be a POCI member to attend?

[694.1]

I had a conflict but would otherwise be there.
No need to be a POCI member just to hang out, see the show or visit the swap.
See you at the Hundreth!

[JacintasHot]

Hey the big show is tomorrow 8-3 come on down I have my 66 GTO in it.

[gtoguys]

This show is a big disappointment. I think 8 vendors and 74 Concours cars. Popular vote cars maybe 125- 150? This was supposed to be an inside show for everything, but they wrote that it would only be inside for 2 days! The show cars are a block away from the host hotel. If POCI holds another Nationals here, count me out.

[JacintasHot]

Totally lame turnout/:venue. little payout for the effort output I feel
Seriously considering cancelling GTOAA Kingsport next week as I fear the same will happen
.

[JacintasHot]

Replying to previous

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by JacintasHot

Totally lame turnout/:venue. little payout for the effort output I feel
Seriously considering cancelling GTOAA Kingsport next week as I fear the same will happen
.

two different organizations, hopefully, a much different experience in Kingsport!

[72projectbird]

Sounds like a not fun time. I was planning on possibly taking my 70 to one of these events when it's completed, but it seems like every year the opinions of the show are worse than the previous year.

[RocktimusPryme]

I think concourse cars, show cars whatever you want to call them, have a place. But I don't think you can build an event around it anymore.

Conversely, look at Roadkill Nights, PRI, or even the Pontiac Nationals at Norwalk. Great turnouts, great reviews generally. People have fun. They are events, there is racing, burnout boxes etc, there are things to do. This is a positive change IMO, but events that don't flex a little in their way of thinking will be left behind.

[Rachelsdad]

To anyone who thinks that a concours quality show is not possible anymore, attend an AACA show sometime.

I did the Special Eastern Fall Nationals last year in Hampton, VA. It was an indoor show (my first), and there were a lot of truly excellent cars.

On the first of this month, I did the 59th annual AACA show at Old Westbury Gardens on Long Island. It was a truly enjoyable event, with lots of quality cars, run very well, with fair judging (and I'm not just saying that because my '63 Bonneville took 1st in her class).

As for the POCI convention, after driving to Springdale, Arkansas last year (about 1,500 miles for me), I decided to sit this one out, even though I was enthused about an indoor event with AC. I am currently planning to attend next year's event in Pontiac, Michigan, but we'll see how that goes.

It's certainly disheartening that the event may not have been all of what it was advertised to be. I don't have enough feedback yet to provide more commentary. Last year, there was a scheduling mess between POCI and the Ames Pontiac Performance Nationals which surely didn't help. I don't think we had any overlapping this year, but I may be missing something.

[locomotivebreath]

I’m 80 miles from Louisville, I didn’t know about it .

[stevep]

Norwalk is the place to be, if you want to go to a Pontiac show.

[JacintasHot]

I decided to cancel out Kingsport as I fear low/ no turnout and too much effort getting there

[1965gp]

I went the last time it was in Louisville, left really disappointed. After going to the one at the TX Speedway in Dallas both my dad and I decided we were done making a special trip for POCI. Just can’t justify it when events like Norwalk and the TA Nats exist.

If POCI and GTOAA could get over their ego’s we could have one amazing show but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. I think it was done twice and both were spectacular turn outs. Super rare cars, great swap meet, really attracted a lot of people. It’s a shame it doesn’t happen.

[tekuhn]

Highlight for me was the gorgeous Baja Gold ‘70 Judge with Ram Air V. It left Wednesday morning and I suspect a lot of people didn’t even know it was there.

[CanAmT/AGTO]

Originally Posted by 1965gp

I went the last time it was in Louisville, left really disappointed. After going to the one at the TX Speedway in Dallas both my dad and I decided we were done making a special trip for POCI. Just can’t justify it when events like Norwalk and the TA Nats exist.

If POCI and GTOAA could get over their ego’s we could have one amazing show but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. I think it was done twice and both were spectacular turn outs. Super rare cars, great swap meet, really attracted a lot of people. It’s a shame it doesn’t happen.

Couldn't Agree More!

[spartazoo]

Originally Posted by 1965gp

I went the last time it was in Louisville, left really disappointed. After going to the one at the TX Speedway in Dallas both my dad and I decided we were done making a special trip for POCI. Just can’t justify it when events like Norwalk and the TA Nats exist.

If POCI and GTOAA could get over their ego’s we could have one amazing show but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. I think it was done twice and both were spectacular turn outs. Super rare cars, great swap meet, really attracted a lot of people. It’s a shame it doesn’t happen.

1000%. The people in this gig are getting older. Attendance is going to go down regardless what either group does. Combining would stave off the sudden decline for both.

Dayton was incredible.


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[stevep]

Originally Posted by 1965gp

I went the last time it was in Louisville, left really disappointed. After going to the one at the TX Speedway in Dallas both my dad and I decided we were done making a special trip for POCI. Just can’t justify it when events like Norwalk and the TA Nats exist.

If POCI and GTOAA could get over their ego’s we could have one amazing show but that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. I think it was done twice and both were spectacular turn outs. Super rare cars, great swap meet, really attracted a lot of people. It’s a shame it doesn’t happen.

It has nothing to do with egos. It has to do with very different philosophies.
Well, it did when I was on the POCI board,

[J GLASGO]

Poci and GTO Nationals have been on decline since Norwalk has become so popular. Used to go to poci and gto nationals every year. Now I only go to Norwalk