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Old 06-16-2025, 07:56 PM
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Old 06-16-2025, 08:06 PM
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Hell of a collection. Very nice.

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At least in the late 60's & up into the 70's numerous Pontiac Zone employees had the ability to drive well loaded new models as demonstrators. Wasn't just the top managers. In the late Summer of '68, my Dad (worked for GMAC) special ordered our family's '69 Executive 428 6 pass wgn. Dad set it up so local zone 20 Pontiac rep (friend) drove the Executive wagon for 2 months. A great deal as this zone rep was in and out of Pontiac dealerships all over & could get any bugs worked out immediately. Previously, Dad had managed a similar deal with the same zone rep to drive what would my grandmother's '66 Ventura. Years later, when my parents moved N of OKC to Edmond, the Pontiac zone mgr & Pontiac zone distribution manager both lived in my folks neighborhood. Both zone execs drove new '81 Daytona Pacecars for a few months.
This is correct.

I was a company vehicle driver for about 20 years and I was just a worker bee, buying between one and four vehicles per year.

I think the best I ever did was 38% off on a Suburban taking into consideration the mileage (7500 miles) and past model year discounts.

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Old 06-16-2025, 08:46 PM
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The Grand Prix looks like a cream puff deluxe.
About 4 months between build and the time sold to Hoover Pontiac.

Great collection of a broad range of Ponchos.
Thanks for sharing the pictures with us.

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Old 06-16-2025, 09:06 PM
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Thanks to PHS we see quite a good amount of these vested employee company cars.
Very exceptional to see a 69 - 70 company driver over 5500 .
Most of the uncapped guys or higher capped guys were probably getting loaded Bonnevilles and most of us don't follow those cars very heavily.

I think considerations were probably given not to go too nuts because they eventually were going to have to find buyers for these cars.
8track, wood wheel, cruise control could have pushed this one up to 6500

This first buyer of this car might have also done an insider deal getting it equipped how they wanted by a friend or contact within PMD zone 25.

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Old 06-16-2025, 09:47 PM
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70 Coupe DeVille 5900 new
70 Stingray LT1 Convertible 5650 new

73 SD TA with extra exceptional high option content 6100-6200 new

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Old 06-17-2025, 07:22 PM
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Wow, I spy a Can Am hood in that last picture.

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Old 06-17-2025, 08:14 PM
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Yes. The Can Am is behind the hood in the garage. The previous owner removed the front clip when he installed the balanced and blueprinted engine. I had the seats reupholstered and haven’t worked on it in a while. It has a rowdy 400 with a 280 Comp Cam, ported 6X heads, headers, a 3500 stall converter, and a 3.23 posi. Car is loaded up with pw, pdl, tilt, cruise, and power trunk release. All original engine with machine work by Race Engine Design in Chattanooga, TN. They were one of the best but sadly now out of business.

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Old 06-17-2025, 11:12 PM
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very nice gp and collection. out of curiosity seeing the 69 ta with a/c where did it sell new? what is the 70 chevelle (396, ls5 ls6)?
so do you have a favorite?

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Old 06-18-2025, 05:20 AM
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Trans Am was sold new on Oklahoma. Chevelle is a 396 350 horse 4 speed with air. My favorite is the White 70 Judge. It is automatic with air, loaded with ps,pb. tilt, cruise, power seat, formula wheel, 8 track, California emissions cars with 60,000 miles.

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Old 06-18-2025, 10:20 PM
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was it in tulsa at milner pontiac? is it a 4 speed? with only 32 made, milner sold if i remember correctly at least 3 of them with ac. i have one.

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Old 06-18-2025, 10:41 PM
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It was sold at Scholfield Brothers Pontiac in Wichita, Kansas.

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Old 06-18-2025, 10:42 PM
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Yes, it is a 4 speed.

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Old 06-18-2025, 10:53 PM
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Car has been through a really nice restoration. Car was modified from as delivered condition to suit the owner. AC was installed and a hood tach was added to it also. I know that no one here likes any modifications to real 69 Trans Ams. I get it. For my personal preference, I have always loved hood tachs on all high performance Pontiacs and I have got to have cold AC if I am going to drive it. The level of detail on this car is amazing.

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Old 06-19-2025, 07:59 PM
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i owned a business in wichita for many years. there were a couple of them that ran around town in the 80's. couldnt ever get them to sell them. any idea when it left wichita?

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Old 06-19-2025, 08:07 PM
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I don’t know when it left Wichita. Story was that a woman owned the car and wanted AC and it was added to it when new. Probably a bogus story! Lol! I would really like to know some history about it. The car came out of a collection in Alabama where it had been for 14 years.

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Old 06-23-2025, 07:32 PM
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I talked with the original owner today. She is 85 years old. She is very sharp and a super nice person. I asked her about the history of the car and if the car was sold to her as a Pontiac zone car. She said the car had a few thousand miles on it and the selling dealer told her and her husband that a man had bought it and brought it back because his wife wanted a four door car. There was no mention of it being a brass hat car. My parents bought a new 66 Bonneville with a few thousand miles on it and the dealer told my Dad that a man had bought it and his wife didn’t think it was luxurious enough and came back and traded it in on a new 98 Oldsmobile. I wonder if dealers told thus type of thing to customers as a way of selling zone cars or as they to become known as program cars. Also, she worked at the telephone company and the car was always garaged.

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Old 06-23-2025, 08:15 PM
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Original owner.
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Old 06-23-2025, 09:13 PM
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Amazing what a car salesman will dream up when selling a car.
I would have been more in favor of buying a brass hat vehicle.
Maybe there was some backlash to telling buyers they were company cars in certain cases. idunno

She still looks really sprite and robust at 85.

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Old 06-24-2025, 07:51 PM
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thats great you got a picture of them with it. did they say why they sold it?

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