[Baron Von Zeppelin]

All those convenience options are cool.
and a posi axle with a 2bbl might be the first I've seen.
That was Judge money.

Wonder if the hubcap rims are 6" or 7" with F70 tires , I don't know what was available on those..

The PoP date is an oddity listed as Jan 1970

[mysticmissle]

What are the last two items?
Optional LOC and Adv Asn Col?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Optional local advertising association collection .
It's one item across 2 lines.

Dealers in the advertising group paid a flat fee per car into the collection fund.
TV ads, newspaper ads, etc...
Usually $10 - 20 per car depending on the area and amount of advertising.
It should list a dollar amount out next to it.

Hubcaps were included in the Decor Group

[north]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Wonder if the hubcap rims are 6" or 7" with F70 tires , I don't know what was available on those..

The PoP date is an oddity listed as Jan 1970

All firebirds with an optional engine (ie, not the 1bbl ohc) came with 7" wheels and F tires in 69. Even with the base 1bbl engine if you ordered any optional F sized tire you'd also get the 7" rims. In other words, the only way to get 6" rims was to order a base engine car with the standard E sized tires that came with that engine only.

I suspect, based on the options the car and the document dates, it was used by someone at the dealership and then sold as a demo a year later.

[north]

Originally Posted by SD455DJ

AC triggers the TH400 in 1969 for Firebirds & A-bodies (non-GTO's) when an auto trans is ordered.

Dennis

The exception to this was that very late (around july 69) in the model run they started installing the th350 with the 2bbl 350 with AC combo. I suspect the reason for the th400 in the 2bbl AC cars was perhaps a production capacity issue for the then brand new th350 and or a concern about some combo of torque and weight for the th350, subsequent tested would have released it for those AC applications.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by north

...
I suspect, based on the options the car and the document dates, it was used by someone at the dealership and then sold as a demo a year later.

Maybe a possibility.
But the document above the PoP states date of retail sale 1-22-69
And PoP coded A1 showing 4 miles , perhaps typo'd 1-27-70

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Camaro guys will pay up for date matched set of those 7" wheels.
Too early for 69 TA buyers , but they might would bite on them.

[north]

Btw, this car is an example of a strange billing oddity on factory to dealer invoices:

As discussed in this thread, if you ordered a Firebird with a 350 2bbl with AC and hydramatic transmission you received a th400 instead of a th350. In this case the dealer would be billed the regular th400 MSRP price of $227.04.

However, if you ordered the same powertrain combo of 350 2bbl, AC and hydramatic on an A body (except GTO of course), you still would get the th400 but the dealer would be billed the th350 price of $205.92.

Who knows why, wonder which one was what they intended and which one was a decision they forgot to apply?

[north]

The attachment in my last post shows a very late car being actually built with a th350 with the 3502bbl AC combo (hence the 359 instead of 351 option code).

[mysticmissle]

This should have the 278 posi? Where is the break down for "361" ?
The original steel wheels are long gone. It does have a set of vintage 14" ET slotted aluminum mags on it.
Thanks for all the learning.
I'm going to try and make her run next warm
Day I have off

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

2.78 by the chart that Dennis posted.
They didn't order HD Posi , or economy axle , or performance axle.
Any of those would show on the invoice.
So it should be standard ratio.

What is the document that shows date of retail sale ?
Anything that supports Jan 69 or Jan 70 of him taking ownership ?

[mysticmissle]

I assumed it was typo like
You but will
Dig thru what I have for paperwork

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

I bought a 10bolt posi out of a 68 GTO Auto AC.
The car was stacked on top of another car - they wouldn't let me touch it.
But I could see the shiny Limited Slip tag on the cover.
Rolled the dice.

I paid - and they pulled it out (torch cut all control arms) the next day.
Picked up next day = 2.56 ! shet I was expecting 3.23 or 3.08 at the worst.
They must have ordered economy axle on top of saf -t-track

[north]

I've noticed that a lot of 69 350 2bbl AC Firebirds and A bodies were actually built with 2.56 even though the chart says 2.78. I suspect that the powertrain chart was changed at the start of the run but they didn't bother to reprint revised ones. Similarly, 69 GTO's with automatic and no AC, the charts all say 3.36 but most 69 GTO's with automatic and no AC ended up with 3.55's.