[SRGN]

Originally Posted by JimFB400HO

I will be interested to know what the manufacturers and government come up with for the 2027 mandate that all new vehicles have some sort of impairment monitor spying on the driver. The articles about it have had a huge variety of speculation of technology designs. Most if not all appear to be highly intrusive and objectionable. FYI, I find drunk/high/drugged driving despicable but I find such privacy intrusion equally despicable. I have also been interested in the potential 2028 return of GM V8s and sedans but NOT if they will decide how I have approached my car (a GM design), infrared scanning of my eyes, monitoring my heart rate, analyze my sweat, etc. and then shut the car off if the technology is not pleased with what it sees. Oh, and I have to pay for all that garbage.

It's bad enough many cars shut off at stoplights. No, I would not purchase a vehicle that does that either.

Trying to navigate multiple touch screens to change the radio station or adjust the climate control on a newer vehicle is as bad as using a cell phone while driving. Yet, that's not being regulated. In vehicle breathalyzer units are widely used in NJ for DUI offenders, which is fine since the offender has to pay out of pocket for the installation. I don't feel like everyone should have to have it, the vehicle is being made responsible instead of the operator. People make bad choices all the time, sometimes the consequences are insignificant, and sometimes catastrophic. I don't feel like the choice should be taken away from people, at that point we are no longer a free society. If personal responsibility was more prevalent, we wouldn't need nanny devices. If someone chooses to operate a vehicle while impaired, it's on the individual. It's not the car manufacturer's fault, or the alcohol manufacturer. It's like going after the firearms manufacturers since an individual decided to use their product for an unlawful purpose. Following that precedent, it's only a matter of time before someone sues a car manufacturer because the vehicle manufactured by them was used by someone driving impaired, and harmed others in the process.

I don't like tech in my vehicles. I won't buy a newer vehicle for that reason, I also refuse to move to a newer vehicle for work. My current PPV has no screens, just buttons and knobs for radio and HVAC.

[KS circutguy]

Wanker.lol
Actually IMO the 'wankers' are currently driving and promoting EV's.
Wanker
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[OG68]

My Grandmother quit driving in 1940 when her Model T finally died. Didn't like driving the new 'modern' cars...

[kingbuzzo]

designed by Johnny fIve from crApple...it shows lol

[KS circutguy]

Originally Posted by kingbuzzo

designed by Johnny fIve from crApple...it shows lol

I can’t believe they stole that design from the Nissan Leaf.

I thought the public was rejecting a lot of the electric car push. Just watched a video where people touring a boneyard in Dallas where all the outdated and broken Tesla's are due to the costs associated with repair. At some point, they all become scrap due to the costs to repair.

Is there some unwritten rule with EVs that you can't just swap an ICE power train with an EV power train and not change a thing about the exterior styling?

Why does every EV look like it lost a future car contest?

[Nobuddy]

Originally Posted by KS circutguy

Is there some unwritten rule with EVs that you can't just swap an ICE power train with an EV power train and not change a thing about the exterior styling?

The lack of an engine bay is likely the largest obstacle. "@RichRebuilds" did a V8 Model S on YouTube.

[ta6point6]

The car may start reporting information about you but your phone has been doing this for years. Why are people so afraid of EVs?

[KS circutguy]

After seeing the way you installed the radio and tablet on your vehicle I really doubt anyone taking high tech advice from you.
Keep Trolling though.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by ta6point6

The car may start reporting information about you but your phone has been doing this for years. Why are people so afraid of EVs?

Not afraid of EV's.

They are just not practical for where I live, work and play. Someday they might be of interest to me.

[jhein]

No fear of EVs for me. Just deeply opposed to mandates and motives.

[JimFB400HO]

Originally Posted by ta6point6

The car may start reporting information about you but your phone has been doing this for years. Why are people so afraid of EVs?

I only thought my preference was based on how the characteristics of the products match my needs. I was unaware that my choice is because of a phobia.

Second, do I realize the potential intrusiveness of technologies today? Yes and I attempt to minimize the personal information collected. That does not mean that I should not oppose and avoid a vehicle (both for ICE and EV) technology that will stare at my face every second I'm driving, transmit my location to unknown sources advertising that I am not home and won't be for hours, or notify authorities and companies of my driving. I read 1984.