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Old 07-05-2015, 12:34 PM
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Write this in the dust on your dash. If i went n20 single carb........1130hp. Youre over estimating the differences effect on power.
1st your NA motor is above average. You've had doubters and non believers. Few if any from our "camp". Certainly not me. IN FACT I'm certain few know about the prominent "ehttfmf'rs" who behind the view of this forum were mad, jealous or outright indignant about what you, John and rest of team accomplished! (Welcome to our world)

I wonder how many here realize or are aware you could find 30 or more HP if you were willing to go after it.. (no small task)

2nd to your comment. What assumed load of N2O would you eventually plan to be adding to your base of 1130? Do either of us know if the DF LJ race is only a test/tune for future plans??? I don't have that info. I do suspect Dick and Bill haven't built a grenade and are leaving plenty of reserve for the future.

I'll stand by my previous comment.

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1st your NA motor is above average. You've had doubters and non believers. Few if any from our "camp". Certainly not me. IN FACT I'm certain few know about the prominent "ehttfmf'rs" who behind the view of this forum were mad, jealous or outright indignant about what you, John and rest of team accomplished! (Welcome to our world)

I wonder how many here realize or are aware you could find 30 or more HP if you were willing to go after it.. (no small task)

2nd to your comment. What assumed load of N2O would you eventually plan to be adding to your base of 1130? Do either of us know if the DF LJ race is only a test/tune for future plans??? I don't have that info. I do suspect Dick and Bill haven't built a grenade and are leaving plenty of reserve for the future.

I'll stand by my previous comment.
Ok. I see your point. My comment was more for the unlimited budget. There is no such thing. Sure some have more to spend. Others refuse to spend and save. Whatever. Parts are parts as far as cost goes. Sum of the parts does not guarantee any outcome. Be it big hp or grenade proof.

Both engines made GOOD power. One side saying billet heads make the other "max effort unlimited budget" while that same side has multiple "experts" contributing expertise and multiple dyno sessions sounds a little silly to me.

And Jack should buy a gearset just saying.

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Old 07-05-2015, 12:59 PM
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Psychology 101 "Ring a Bell and the dog will salivate ............."

"In his initial experiments, Pavlov presented a stimulus (A bell ringing) and then gave the dog food; after a few repetitions, the dog started to salivate in response to the bell."

I can post a two sentence comment/question ("Bell") and the "What" Boys (especially TTB) will post a million lines of excuses for the next 6 days. It is a switch, like a light switch.

So very simple to get the "dog" to drool.

Let it go Paul K, it got the response I expected with the least effort. Why waste 25 minutes of smack talking on the Street Outlaws show to wind the other guy up?
I can do it in 20 seconds.

Funny, really funny.

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ps I personally would like to see Mr Fulton do very well against Jack because there it will be the "Whole Combination", not just a couple of pieces of aluminum and a bunch of dogs barking.


... lmao, again Tom ... drooling salivating dogs and bells ?? ... you seriously need help man, you truly are a head case, lol ... the only difference between you and Gach, is you can spell, but neither of you can count, LOL !!! ...

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And Jack should buy a gearset just saying.
I already assumed he's made a gearset change, with the assurance he will be there.

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Old 07-05-2015, 04:13 PM
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I think if he gets it together for Norwalk the fastest cv-1 head will be Bad69bird. That f2 does wonders for any head! ( maybe faster on e heads! LOL just kidding)
Don't think I'm making it with the car...the "detail work" is eating up a lot of time, but I'm still going to give it a valiant effort. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

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...As far as Brian's car Id like to know if he blows it up again will it be the heads fault? Whenever he has trouble its somehow the heads fault yet he is still running them. Lets get an answer before it happens?
Never had a problem with my eheads. I can't afford to sell my topend at 30 or 40 cents on the dollar and start over or I would. I had Uncle Tony do some things to my heads that we believe will help. Magic Man did some work to my intake as well.

Not certain why you are attacking me as I haven't mentioned you, but please keep my name out of your mouth and stay out of my business. Thank you.

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Correction! Brian has UT-1's.........UTTTF!
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Don't think I'm making it with the car...the "detail work" is eating up a lot of time. But thanks for the vote of confidence.



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Never had a problem with my eheads. I can't afford to sell my topend at 30 or 40 cents on the dollar and start over or I would. I had Uncle Tony do some things to my heads that we believe will help. Magic Man did some work to my intake as well.

Not certain why you are attacking me as I haven't mentioned you, but please keep my name out of your mouth and stay out of my business. Thank you.



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... UT-1's ?? ... this is difficult to keep up with at times ...

... as for the details eating up time, jeez i can relate to that, my current project has me on the ropes ...

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Old 07-05-2015, 05:16 PM
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I already assumed he's made a gearset change, with the assurance he will be there.
It needs another gear change, like more gear, they are already on the way. I have a race on July 18, 1/8 mile heads up and another after Norwalk so it would be kind of foolish to change the gear and converter for one race. I need as much tuning time as I can with the combo that I have for the series that I ran.

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Don't think I'm making it with the car...the "detail work" is eating up a lot of time, but I'm still going to give it a valiant effort. Thanks for the vote of confidence.



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Never had a problem with my eheads. I can't afford to sell my topend at 30 or 40 cents on the dollar and start over or I would. I had Uncle Tony do some things to my heads that we believe will help. Magic Man did some work to my intake as well.

Not certain why you are attacking me as I haven't mentioned you, but please keep my name out of your mouth and stay out of my business. Thank you.



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Not attacking anyone, just a serious question given your previous claims regarding the heads. Personally I don't care what you do.

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Ok. I see your point. My comment was more for the unlimited budget. There is no such thing. Sure some have more to spend. Others refuse to spend and save. Whatever. Parts are parts as far as cost goes. Sum of the parts does not guarantee any outcome. Be it big hp or grenade proof.

Both engines made GOOD power. One side saying billet heads make the other "max effort unlimited budget" while that same side has multiple "experts" contributing expertise and multiple dyno sessions sounds a little silly to me.

And Jack should buy a gearset just saying.
Oh crap, I will clarify what I mean when I say "sum of the parts" and "sum of the build".
To me "sum of parts" is just that and agree price doesnt guarantee anything.

"Sum of the build" has nothing to do with dollars spent.
The pieces used(what you start with) + the knowledge applied(what you did with the pieces) + results obtained make up the "sum of the build" . Not a mathmatical equation, it can be a judgemental evaluation or a direct comparison and sometimes both. (preferably apples to apples or all factors considered when it cant be)

Sorry for the confusion.

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Not attacking anyone, just a serious question given your previous claims regarding the heads. Personally I don't care what you do.
And I answered your question...you must care because you brought up my car again. So if you don't care what I do keep my name out of your mouth. Thanks

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Hey Brian, I tried to sell my CV-1 stuff, but nobody wanted it. Even Jim wouldn't buy it back. I guess I will have to put it in the Free ad's. LOL Thanks Rusty

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Oh crap, I will clarify what I mean when I say "sum of the parts" and "sum of the build".
To me "sum of parts" is just that and agree price doesnt guarantee anything.

"Sum of the build" has nothing to do with dollars spent.
The pieces used(what you start with) + the knowledge applied(what you did with the pieces) + results obtained make up the "sum of the build" . Not a mathmatical equation, it can be a judgemental evaluation or a direct comparison and sometimes both. (preferably apples to apples or all factors considered when it cant be)

Sorry for the confusion.
Well Said, Mike. (as usual).

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Hey Brian, I tried to sell my CV-1 stuff, but nobody wanted it. Even Jim wouldn't buy it back. I guess I will have to put it in the Free ad's. LOL Thanks Rusty

... not many lookinv for just one head fully worked Rusty, but i actually have a customer interested in a 4cyl build, I'll mention it to him and see what i can do ...

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