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Rholmes · 10-24-2004, 01:53 AM

Jandro remove those plastic ties asap.As the radiator heats up it will melt them,regardless of car speed.What about the stock 69 firebird retainer plate.It should work with slight modification(ex. 90 degree 1/8 stock welded/bolted to lip of plate,brace top of radiator,mark holes on top core support and drill for 3 small self tapping screw).This just an idea from the pic.Others with similar f-bodies may have a better.By the way,SWEEEET

looking car and engine.

Roger.

Txbobcat · 10-24-2004, 05:50 AM

Cool car You do god work

kaysersuzuki · 10-24-2004, 05:50 AM

i can see the final score now/fan 1---radiator 0

Sporter · 10-24-2004, 05:56 AM

My son installed a dual electric fan in his '79 Z28 (455 powered) and after a few months I noticed he had tie strapped it to the aluminum radiator. They actually held up well, but I made him mount it right.

Here is a couple of shots of the Mark VIII electric fan. It fits the 1st generation Firebirds very well and flows between 4000-4500 cfm. Solved my cooling needs.

455firebird1969 · 10-24-2004, 07:19 AM

Jandro,

Your car is looking good, and it looks like you are having fun with that S/S fan. Wait until you start to drive that car, all that work will turn into pride when your friends see it. First thing I noticed was the tie wraps securing the radiator. Dont drive it like that, it should be OK for start-up and break-in maybe. What do you have it sitting on in that pic? On my 1969 Firebird the radiator is bolted to the core support, via flanges that are soldered to the each side of the radiator. You could weld flanges to the aluminum radiator and bolt it on the same way.

louisville97 · 10-24-2004, 11:59 AM

How come I can't see the pics? I get a bandwidth theft notice.

Jandro · 10-24-2004, 12:10 PM

well after 800 hits here and several more on other sites, I'm sure the server couldn't take it anymore lol... I'll put it up again later.

Thanks everyone again... currently the car hasn't been driven really at all. I have it sitting waiting for the radiator support problem to be fixed whenever I get around to it and the weather in Macon clears up. When I get it taken care of I'll show you better pictures

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Jandro

Jandro · 10-24-2004, 12:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Sporter:
My son installed a dual electric fan in his '79 Z28 (455 powered) and after a few months I noticed he had tie strapped it to the aluminum radiator. They actually held up well, but I made him mount it right.

Here is a couple of shots of the Mark VIII electric fan. It fits the 1st generation Firebirds very well and flows between 4000-4500 cfm. Solved my cooling needs.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...0_100_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...80_99_full.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd really like to try that fan set up!! as I have found out I REALLY need some fan shrouds. I don't really have the experience or the means to fabricate my own. Where do you find fans like that? Is your radiator a 31 x 19 like mine?

Jandro

EnergyFX · 10-24-2004, 01:27 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jandro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
HAHA!!! You got bit by a flex fan!!! Now I don't feel like such a moron anymore from when I got bit by one 10 years ago. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey how fast is the car in you sig? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not very

So far the best I have got is a 8.5 in the 1/8 with street tires (2.2 60'). Most recent 1/4 track trip I was plagued with fuel pump gremlins and never got a good run. I need to stop chasing power and get some slicks. All I keep doing is compounding my traction issues. I'm actualy slower than 8.5 now because I have to let off the throttle before bumping 2nd or it'll break traction and never lock back up... this is after riding the break off the line just to keep from spinning on the launch.

The pics in the sig are old... here is a more recent photo. She's been lowered and has new wheels and tires. Right... I have traction issues so I go and lower my car

But damn it looks better!

EnergyFX · 10-24-2004, 01:29 PM

Another

Formulafr · 10-24-2004, 02:09 PM

i love your mate paint

EnergyFX · 10-24-2004, 02:25 PM

Thanks... the car is going into the body shoop this week for "cancer" treatment. The current matte paint is a driveway rattle can job (Krylon Enamel). When I get it back it will still be matte black, but it will be a thick and smooth spray gun coat. I never thought I would keep the car that color... but after doing it in the driveway I fell in love with the look and have gotten way too many compliments about how mean the car looks.

Matte Black with professional Gloss Black stripes on the hood scoops and matching on the trunk with white pinstriping outlining the gloss stripes... I may even go so far as to get ghost checkers or flames in the stripes. That will be the final look for this car.

Sporter · 10-24-2004, 04:31 PM

Jandro - The radiator is 27" by 19" with 22.5" of fins. The fan shroud is 22" by 19" and fits like a glove. I bought mine at the link below for about $149. I used an adjustable thermostat and a Ford starter solenoid. It knocks about 100 rpm out of my idle when it kicks on but it pulls some serious air through the radiator.

Rock Auto Parts

EnergyFX - Love that Formula. If you come to Eglin I'll loan you some slicks. That car needs to be in the 7's.

goatnut4909 · 10-24-2004, 05:20 PM

hey jandro looks real good night and day difference,One question for you how do the fans work i want to go with electric fans also

Jandro · 10-24-2004, 06:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jandro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by EnergyFX:
HAHA!!! You got bit by a flex fan!!! Now I don't feel like such a moron anymore from when I got bit by one 10 years ago. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey how fast is the car in you sig? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not very

So far the best I have got is a 8.5 in the 1/8 with street tires (2.2 60'). Most recent 1/4 track trip I was plagued with fuel pump gremlins and never got a good run. I need to stop chasing power and get some slicks. All I keep doing is compounding my traction issues. I'm actualy slower than 8.5 now because I have to let off the throttle before bumping 2nd or it'll break traction and never lock back up... this is after riding the break off the line just to keep from spinning on the launch.

The pics in the sig are old... here is a more recent photo. She's been lowered and has new wheels and tires. Right... I have traction issues so I go and lower my car

But damn it looks better! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is one good looking ride brother... but I have to say, with that signature "VTEC this" you and I may have to throw down hahahah! How bout it? If I win you change the signature? Hahaha! It's all in good fun!

I like that Matte paint too, kindof "rat" style.

Jandro · 10-24-2004, 06:15 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by michelin man:
hey jandro looks real good night and day difference,One question for you how do the fans work i want to go with electric fans also <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They flow 2500 cfm each, so it's a good flowing fan set up, BUT I'm probably going to sell the set up and just get one with a shroud. If i had the means to make the shroud, it CERTAINLY cool the radiator down a LOT more.

EnergyFX · 10-25-2004, 07:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jandro:

That is one good looking ride brother... but I have to say, with that signature "VTEC this" you and I may have to throw down hahahah! How bout it? If I win you change the signature? Hahaha! It's all in good fun!

I like that Matte paint too, kindof "rat" style. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a couple here in the area that I can't touch... but they both have like $15-20k in their motors. The back window has white letters saying "VTEC THIS" as well... but the imports that can beat me are well beyond their days of VTEC, Type R, SSi,... whatever.

Remember... I am 8.5 in the 1/8 TRACTION LIMITED... if you want the deed to my sig then I promise you I will buy, steal, borrow, find, or make some drag slicks before we "throw down". The car has sub-frame connectors and line-locks alreay on it... so she's more than ready to respond to the stickey stuff.

What are you puffing your chest with anyways? Unlike alot of muscle car buffs, I admire many of the Imports that are done right... it all the rediculous sticker/coffee can econo boxes that drive me up the wall. My previous neighbor had a new Evo. That car was really nice... too bad he couldn't catch me on the track with it.

BTW here is one more shot of her along side a buddy's 70 GTO. Both are HO cars.

Jandro · 10-29-2004, 05:20 PM

heres a little clip of me revving it up

right click, save as please

EnergyFX: the honda has a Prelude engine with a 75 shot. It is not your everyday "ricer" lol... it looks stock from the outside

here is an example:

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