[ventura7211]

The classes we run prevent us from being able to use a 4-link. A 4 link does have several advantages over ladder bars, you can compensate for a bad or really good track as well as hooking with out having to carry the front end as much. That said one of our cars 60s in the 1.17 range with the back tires on a 29.5 10.5 slick with ladder bars. Wheelie bar adjustments and wheel speed become very critical on this car. FWIW

[Goatman]

Originally Posted by Polar-Pontiac

1.35 60ft Ladder bar car all steel motor built by potent pontiac 10 inch tire

Had a 1.37 in my stock suspended GTO.............



In my opinion, unless you're looking to get into the 9's or faster, leave the stock suspension in it. If not, go with a 4 link.

[MrPushrod]

Originally Posted by ventura7211

The classes we run prevent us from being able to use a 4-link. A 4 link does have several advantages over ladder bars, you can compensate for a bad or really good track as well as hooking with out having to carry the front end as much. That said one of our cars 60s in the 1.17 range with the back tires on a 29.5 10.5 slick with ladder bars. Wheelie bar adjustments and wheel speed become very critical on this car. FWIW

I heard about that from a friend that some classes don't allow them.
I never want wheelie bars, so maybe a 4link would be better since I can control wheelies with a 4 link. I know that John Langer has a ladder bar car and his doesn't wheelie much. I'll never make power like that. Is there a way to fine tune a ladder bar car so you don't pull the front up as much?

[Goatman]

Yep.


But you have to be able to move weight around the car and adjust the front suspension.

[ho428]

Before back halving it have you looked at the Slider Link bars? Once you hack the back, and tub it, you'll probably have to narrow the rear seat.
If anything you could go with a mini-tub, deeper offset wheels, slider links and keep the back half as is.
Just a thought.

I've had Slappers, ladders and 4 links with wishbone on various cars. And now slider links on my 68 Bird. Haven't tested the sliders yet but they seem to offer adjustability and preload without sacrificing ride quality.
4 link was the best on the strip. Ladders worked well on the street and strip but the ride was harsh.

[MrPushrod]

Originally Posted by ho428

Before back halving it have you looked at the Slider Link bars? Once you hack the back, and tub it, you'll probably have to narrow the rear seat.
If anything you could go with a mini-tub, deeper offset wheels, slider links and keep the back half as is.
Just a thought.

I've had Slappers, ladders and 4 links with wishbone on various cars. And now slider links on my 68 Bird. Haven't tested the sliders yet but they seem to offer adjustability and preload without sacrificing ride quality.
4 link was the best on the strip. Ladders worked well on the street and strip but the ride was harsh.

i just sold my caltracs.

[goquick]

I'lll see if my buddy will get a picture of his bent slider links. His camaro makes 650 hp in it's current low compression state with the 615.

[MrPushrod]

Originally Posted by goquick

I'lll see if my buddy will get a picture of his bent slider links. His camaro makes 650 hp in it's current low compression state with the 615.

I've seen bent ones. Haven't seen any bent caltracs though. I miss the caltracs I had. I'm leaning towards the 4link for the adjustability, but I like ladder bars because you can set them and leave them. I don't wanna spend all day tuning a 4 link. If the backseat thing won't work then I will do the 4link. I might be selling my seats, 2 buckets and the rear seat. Does anyone need brand new black seats?

[BILTIT]

What kind of buckets?

[MrPushrod]

Originally Posted by BILTIT

What kind of buckets?

The originals out of my car. New black vinyl. They're beautiful.

[BILTIT]

Do you know if the rear seat fits the ventura's? Is it the same material? I assume the fronts fold ahead for rear seat access. Pretty comfy? Might be what i am looking for.

[MrPushrod]

Originally Posted by BILTIT

Do you know if the rear seat fits the ventura's? Is it the same material? I assume the fronts fold ahead for rear seat access. Pretty comfy? Might be what i am looking for.

Yep, same material. The vinyl isn't the correct factory vinyl.
The seats were done by a local upholstry guy
that does most of the hotrods in my town. He's been doing it for
30+ years. I did my homework on all the shops in town and he was
the best. yes the fronts fold and move foward. Comfy, yes, all new foam.
I don't know if the rear will fit in your car. Good question.

[Polar-Pontiac]

Originally Posted by Goatman

Had a 1.37 in my stock suspended GTO.............



In my opinion, unless you're looking to get into the 9's or faster, leave the stock suspension in it. If not, go with a 4 link.

Yes you did....But you also had a million motor to do it with. I did this with a all steel motor.No big dollar Wilson ported intake. 1970 GTO Judge clone.
461 400 block.
IA prepped 300cfm E-heads
.660-.680 solid roller.
Wilson ported intake. Modded for EFI by Steve Grebeck.
Eagle stroker kit.
CP pistons.
TH400
ATI 4400 stall converter.
12 bolt with 4.10's and Detroit locker.
29.5x10.5W Et Drag's dollar motor

[Goatman]

LOL. That's a million dollar motor?



You must not know much about motors.........

[greggutknecht]

My old 71 ventura went 9.11 with a 1.33 60ft all steel with a ladder bar and 29.5-10.5w.With my new motor went 8.68 1.33 60ft on 29.5-10.5 non w.There is also a nova in my class that has gone 8.20s with cal tracs and radials.

[MrPushrod]

Originally Posted by greggutknecht

My old 71 ventura went 9.11 with a 1.33 60ft all steel with a ladder bar and 29.5-10.5w.With my new motor went 8.68 1.33 60ft on 29.5-10.5 non w.There is also a nova in my class that has gone 8.20s with cal tracs and radials.

Is the nova Artis Houston's car?

[greggutknecht]

not sure of the owners name but i think he is from the chicago area.

[MrPushrod]

[greggutknecht]

Not the same car but it looks pretty sweet.

[MrPushrod]

That nova just went 7.80's on a 275/60 tire with caltracs.