[GREATGTO]

What bs comment? I CANT TELL SOMEONE NICE JOB?

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

What bs comment? I CANT TELL SOMEONE NICE JOB?

Read your last sentence in post 6, that wasn't meant to provoke people?

[Purple Goat]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

He hasnt raised the floor yet DS

" GREAT GTO" reread Bill's Post #1 states he's not ALLOWED to raise the floor.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Read your last sentence in post 6, that wasn't meant to provoke people?

Just saying what always happens, you already asked for track results and the guy is in the middle of developing the port, so I'd say its right. As for provoking someone who do you have in mind? I know I could care less about anyones feelings or emotional reaction to my post and I know Bill ports heads, period. You and whoever the provoked may be give yourselves way too much credit as being relevant.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by Purple Goat

" GREAT GTO" reread Bill's Post #1 states he's not ALLOWED to raise the floor.

I know, but he said he will later on

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by slowbird

What much time does adding epoxy to the floor and then raising the rest of the port up take? How does does Bill charge per hr? The gains aren't worth it for a street/strip port, again that is my opinion.
SD Performance standard pushrod location HP head flows 393cfm on a 4.185 bore.

2.25 valve vs 2.19 for starters... Bill just getting started anyway...hasnt touched the chamber yet not allowed to epoxy or weld, we will see what happens when he gets it on a 4.155 bore when he gets back from vacation. Bill just threw it on the existing fixture before he left...he was in a hurry. Bill says hes sorry you were inconvenienced Slowbird.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Just saying what always happens, you already asked for track results and the guy is in the middle of developing the port, so I'd say its right. As for provoking someone who do you have in mind? I know I could care less about anyones feelings or emotional reaction to my post and I know Bill ports heads, period. You and whoever the provoked may be give yourselves way too much credit as being relevant.

I don't want to be relevant to you guys, lol. The track results comment was a joke sorry you missed that.
Wont posting again, carry on.

[GREATGTO]

LOL, yeah its always a joke, we'll see who laughs last though wont we?

[Purple Goat]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

I know, but he said he will later on

I took that as meaning on another set of heads not this customers. Why not discuss it when it happens. Calling people DS is rude when you are assuming when it will happen.

[GREATGTO]

DS was taking it easy on him.

[Purple Goat]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

DS was taking it easy on him.

LOL ! Carry on

[pastry_chef]

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[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by slowbird

What much time does adding epoxy to the floor and then raising the rest of the port up take? How does does Bill charge per hr? The gains aren't worth it for a street/strip port, again that is my opinion.
SD Performance standard pushrod location HP head flows 393cfm on a 4.185 bore.

But your street motor Dan Barton heads dont have a raised roof or floor work??? But someone elses street strip car its a waste of money???

Wow what an opinion.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

But your street motor Dan Barton heads dont have a raised roof or floor work??? But someone elses street strip car its a waste of money???

Wow what an opinion.

I know I said I wouldn't post again but thought I would answer this.
We made around 900hp on pump WITHOUT EPOXY on the floor or raising the runner. Why would someone want to pay the added cost when it isn't needed? Just my opinion based on my experiences.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by slowbird

I know I said I wouldn't post again but thought I would answer this.
We made around 900hp on pump WITHOUT EPOXY on the floor or raising the runner. Why would someone want to pay the added cost when it isn't needed? Just my opinion based on my experiences.

Maybe it will make more power with epoxy on the floor, Bill said he was going to try it and see what happens, if it doesn't work or isn't worth it I'm sure he will say so.Jeez . You and a few other's spend more money on head work and you are worried about 100 dollars worth of epoxy? How high is he going to raise the floor 10 feet? lol

[slowbird]

I think we have a misunderstanding, raising the port will add flow and improve the port some. My statement is gear towards is that gain worth the cost. Maybe to someone it is but if that someone is willing to pay to raise the port I sure as heck hope they'd also spend the money to offset the pushrod. The added expense to raise the running in a standard pushrod location head makes no sense to me.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by slowbird

I think we have a misunderstanding, raising the port will add flow and improve the port some. My statement is gear towards is that gain worth the cost. Maybe to someone it is but if that someone is willing to pay to raise the port I sure as heck hope they'd also spend the money to offset the pushrod. The added expense to raise the running in a standard pushrod location head makes no sense to me.

Epoxy cost versus offsetting pushrods is a big difference, if he can get good performance by just raising the floor a lot of people might not want to have to offset the pushrods. Epoxy isn't that expensive if you know where to buy it. Don't forget the intake has to be modified also with an offset pushrod port, lot easier to add height to an intake rather than hight and width.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GREATGTO

Epoxy cost versus offsetting pushrods is a big difference, if he can get good performance by just raising the floor a lot of people might not want to have to offset the pushrods. Epoxy isn't that expensive if you know where to buy it.

If Bill can get a non offset pushrod HP head to run with or quicker than one with them offset I will admit Bill is the MAN and never question his ability again. I am talking track performance by the way.

[GREATGTO]

Originally Posted by slowbird

If Bill can get a non offset pushrod HP head to run with or quicker than one with them offset I will admit Bill is the MAN and never question his ability again. I am talking track performance by the way.

No one made any promises of that nature, I'm sure he will do the best he can with given parameters. I'm sure he will do a moved pushrod location highport as well sooner or later, and it will be awesome as well.

[R 70 Judge]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... hey guys, i've been tinkerin' with a customers HighPort project we have in the shop, and this head is the Standard pushrod location High Port and it has a "2.19/1.725" exhaust valve package, so far this is where i'm at with it, i know there is more in it, but for this port i am not allowed to add any material to the floor, so i'll have so save that for later ......

... the head was flow tested on a 4.310 bore, and the stock "Kauffman CNC chamber" has not been touched yet ... once we get back from Christmas vacation, i'll start on the exhaust port, but the baseline test of the "cast" exh.port with my valve job was very nice, so the exhaust wont need much work ... knock on wood, lol ...

(A.P.D.'s Kauffman HP)

.100 - 85.1
.200 - 154.7
.300 - 222.1
.400 - 282.7
.500 - 334.5
.600 - 367.4
.700 - 374.6
.800 - 379.4
.900 - 382.7
1.00 - 383.1

Great job, Bill. Did you get a baseline without any porting? That way you can see how much you picked up?