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Automatics have their place.
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FWIW - even my wife insisted on a 4spd in her Camaro...
![]() I learned how to drive in a car with a stick. I taught my wife how to drive in a car with a stick. My daughter learned how to drive in a car with a stick. An automatic would be a deal breaker for me on an vintage performance car. |
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Myself I prefer a manual trans, street or track. My GTO was my daily driver and weekly racecar for years but have had several with automatics and still have a couple of automatics, my 78 Chevy pick-up and my 85 Grand Prix. The truck gets driven pretty well daily as my left knee won't handle pushing a clutch all the time anymore. Plus my wife can't drive a manual. Besides there is nothing better than hearing someone go through the gears that knows how to shift.
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1971 GTO,72 400, stock bottom end, 670 heads, Lunati BMII cam, headers, iron intake Q-jet, four speed. Best 60 ft 1.806in 2004. Best 1/8th mile e.t. 8.46 with 3.55 open rear 85 Grand Prix, 70 400, casting 62 heads stock rebuild, Turbo 350 trans 78 800 cfm Q-jet modified as per Cliff Ruggles book. 87 F350 6.9 4 speed dually A poor man has poor ways. |
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I have a ST10 455 combo in my 71. It sure is fun. The torque from that 455 running through a 4 speed is something that can not be re-created anywhere else. But It does have its downsides. Traffic is a killer. I live in a small town, so its not really a huge deal, but it still sucks. Plus people ride up your ass at a redlight, so dont let your car roll back when you take off.
Im 21 and my knee is always killing me when I drive it. I do have a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch, so it is stiffer then stock. Im taking it out and going with a TH350. Its for the best, and since Im going with a Turbo LS1 in the near future, it'll work out great. Now... If I was buying a 5.0, it would be a stick. Hydro clutchs are nice and easy on your leg.
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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i have 1 AUTOMATIC CAR I WANT TO FINISH..A 68 CUTLASS RAGTOP...
everything else i have are manual cars, or being converted to manual trans.. i owned a 71 GTO 400 3 speed...and stop light to stop light..it was hard to beat...unless ya had a lot of gears or motor..it all just worked..3.23 posi etc..i beat on that thing every single chance i got..id torture it nightly and get up and drive it to work in the morning wityh no issues...except it kept braking left rear wheel lugs..i finally put racing studs on it and that stopped..i loved that old turd..and wish i had it back... My daily is an auto...and i would never consider a stick driver...but all my toys are manuals or will be a manual... now im stuck on bench seat 4 speed rubber floor mat cars....gotta have em...i mean just gotta..( i may have a problem) the only reason im doing the cutlass as an auto, is because its a bucket seat car...and i want a grocery getter that i can just roll the top back, turn up the 8 track..and roll....
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Mark.. The Goat whisperer "I spent a lot of my money on booze, crazy women, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
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I like automatics................. recommend them to all the ladies I know!
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I like (& own) them both but given the choice it would be a 4spd any day - although in some cases they come in 3, 5 & 6 spds.
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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4spd standard trans here, love to drive through the gears, But it can be nasty when driving in the city at rush hour going 5mph. More so if it has lumpy cam and does not like low rpm. But I wouldn't have it any other way.
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I have both depending on my mood and what type of driving.
'70 T/A - 4 speed '67 GP - 4 speed '70 Z/28 - 4 speed '63 Corvette - 4 speed '69 Chevelle SS396 - Automatic ''67 Coupe Deville - Automatic I guess I like 4 speeds a little more.
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Current Pontiacs -1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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I drove my Lemans Sprint as my onlytransportation for years back then, never got old, at least here in flatland. A 5 speed mod made it even more fun, i wouldn`t have an auto for a muscle car.
My son has a Mazda 6 sped for a daily and a ws6 TA for a fun car. He only wants to drive manuals. It boils down to personal preference...manuals for me in a fun car. George
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I'd have to side with the manual crowd (even my wife demanded a stick in her GXP) BUT I will say I had great fun in a friend's Ferrari with an automatic (paddle shifters).
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1968 LeMans conv. 350 HO - 4 speed triple white (hear it idle here) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVmq...ature=youtu.be 1968 LeMans conv. 350 - 4 speed Solar red/pearl |
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Me, I'll always take a stick over an automatic. I was raised in the bay area with nothing but hills on the surface streets and you better damn well know how to drive a stick in the bay area. If your vehicle rolls back 3" you're going to bump the car behind you. My commute vehicle was a 65 stick shift Chevy C 10 my 31 mile commute would take me 2 hours on the way home. Move 4 feet, clutch in and stop. move 3 feet, clutch in & stop for 30 miles. My current daily driver is a 2002 PT Cruiser with a stick 231,000 miles and still commuting 60 miles round trip to work & back but I now live in the central valley, hills are nonexistent and traffic is pretty much nonexistent a real cake walk for a commute.
For me a muscle car isn't a muscle car unless it has a stick. But that's just my opinion. My 62 Catalina is a 4 SPD and a blast to drive I wouldn't give my stick up for anything.
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Scott Baggiore 66 GTO convertible 389/4 speed (parents bought new) 73 Firebird Formula 400/4 speed 74 GTO 455/4 speed 74 Grand Am |
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A stick car will always be worth more and more desirable that an auto car. I myself could care less if auto or stick. The last stick car I had was an M22, loved that sound and feel of that car.
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“Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” ― Calvin Coolidge |
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I thought he created automatics so you could put your arm around your girl while driving.
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'68 GTO '69 Corvette '75 Cadillac Coupe Deville TOM |
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Here is how my cars went.. 1967 Tempest Coupe Hdtp 326 2 speed AUTO 2.56 Swapped to 400 2 speed AUTO 2.56 swapped to 400 TH350 AUTO 2.56 swapped to 400 4 speed Manual 2.56 swapped to 400 4 speed Manual 3.23 swapped to 400 5 speed Manual 3.23 Manual is better hands down!! 1967 Tempest 4 door wagon 326 2 bbl 2 speed AUTO 2.56 swapped to 326 4bbl 2 speed AUTO 2.56 swapped to 326 4bbl 4 speed Manual 2.56 4 speed wagon that gets 22 mpg consistently on the highway!! Get the 4 speed car and never look back!
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1967 Pontiac Tempest 2dr HRDTP Coupe 468 C.I. 500 HP 5 speed = FUN!!! 1990 Chevy Suburban R2500 Daily Driver 1986 Volvo DL245 Wagon.. Project car!!! The Burb Files |
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