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Last week I called a parts warehouse I used to deal with and asked if they would check old catalogs for part numbers. I was told that the rebuilder's common number for the Tempest shoes is 193 which they have not stocked or sold for many years. I had no luck in finding 193 shoes anywhere.
I am in the process of rebuilding my wheel cylinders and installing 189 Corvair shoes. Since the cylinders have some pitting, I will probably go enough oversize that the pistons will be too loose, in which case I will make some new pistons.
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It has been discussed here before, they will not fit. You will not be able to get brake shoes from any local auto parts store. Call Ames.
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I purchased a complete set of brake shoes from a business called Pacific Brake Bond Inc.
The part number was 2069-193. They measure 9" diameter X 1 3/4" width. Eight shoes cost $90.00 with no cores. They are on my car and work fine. Talk to Warren at PB Brakes, 605 E. Garvey Ave. Ste. B, Monterey Park, CA 91755-1984. Hope this helps answer the question of where to find brake shoes for our Tempests! |
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Sometimes you can find some NOS brake shoes on ebay. I found some for our 61.
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The PB brakes are bonded, and use heavy duty lining material. The brake shoes are original #-193 Tempest pieces. I don't worry about modern bonded brakes because they are made with bonding material that is much better than the glue was used in the "old days".
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I only run bonded brakes. I had a couple of times my brakes wore down to the rivits. Didnt hear any noises. By the time it did make noise, the rivits had grooved the drums so bad they were unservicable.
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Hey Y'all
Thanks for the great advice. Keepyou updated SR66
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Yesterday I installed a set of 189 shoes on the rear of my '63 and found that they would not seat on the top pin. The problem was the parking brake strut being too long so I had to cut the notch a little deeper. This was done with both struts sandwiched in a vise so that they would be equal side to side. I tried the original push rods and found that the pistons were at the edge of the bore so the longer ones were installed.
Another modification being made is the use of non-stock rear hoses. Since I am replacing all the steel lines, I figured I could make the ones from the hose to the wheel cylinder a little shorter and used longer hoses. A front hose will work fine on the LH side and I found a 10" hose for the 1958 - 1960 full size cars with two female ends for the RH side. This is NAPA number 26960. I have fabricated to brackets to attach the hoses to the lower control arm, all this because I am too cheap to pay $30 -$45 each for custom hoses.
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