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Old 08-18-2020, 05:12 PM
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I decided to go for it and ordered the box, pump, rag jont/coupler and hose kit from Jegs for less than the Lee box would be alone.

FWIW...I talked to Borgeson and they said it has a total of 88 degrees of travel and equivalent to 30-35# feel. Talked to Ridetech also and they said I will be pleased...we shall see.

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Old 08-19-2020, 09:54 AM
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Please keep us updated!

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Old 08-19-2020, 01:24 PM
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Will do. Just got them today...only 2 days to arrive from Jegs (very nice).

Probably will be awhile before I can comment, as the car is mid-way through restoration.

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Old 12-07-2020, 05:06 PM
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The torsion bar actually slides inside the input shaft. One end is pinned to the shaft while the other is pinned to the spool cap. As the driver turns the wheel, he actually twists the torsion bar, moving the valve. Once the bar has twisted a certain amount, the valve is opened completely and the steering assist is activated. You can use different size torsion bars to adjust the amount of effort required to turn the steering wheel. Smaller bars twist more easily, requiring less effort from the driver, while thicker bars do the opposite. Most short-track drivers prefer a 235 or 250 valve. The numbers represent the thickness of the torsion bar in thousandths of an inch (a 235 valve would mean a torsion bar that is 0.235 inch thick).

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/ctrp...ering-systems/

A common complaint with ‘60s muscle cars is the lack of “feel” in the steering wheel compared to newer cars. Many assume this comes from increased line pressure. The reality is a little more complex.

Inside the steering box, splined directly to the steering column, is a small torsion bar. When the steering wheel is initially moved, this input twists the torsion bar. Original ‘60s steering boxes used very small diameter torsion bars to minimize the effort, creating that “one finger” feel.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-s...ower-steering/

A topic of interest, valving and road feel. I bought a AGR box with 12:1 ratio and upgraded from the standard 210 valving to a firmer 220 valving. Absolutely outstanding out on the open road with the firmer valving. The upgraded valving provides a firm road feel, like what you might find in a modern sporty car like a BMW, etc, yet for my needs it's adequate for around town and related parking. Side note, info offered for general interest only, the purpose was not to necessarily endorse AGR.



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This is a great explanation. I've spent lots of time on the phone with Lares trying to explain the problems with my steering box feel, and they never brought this up. Not to mention their box has dead zones when the wheel is centered. I need to look for my next box. Lee is not making them now due to Covid.

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The Borgeson box supposedly has the feel of a 210 valving and 12.7:1 ratio.

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