[goathead455]

Could you be more specific about the filler you used?
I have a wheel that I'd like to try to fix.
What dye did you use?

[Norwood]

Mike, you are getting so handy...

[threefidee]

Nice article Mike. I can not wait to see that car done. It will run very well with those dyno numbers. Dan dyno'd my friend Ron's '71 GTO 455 HO motor last year and ran it at the fall PS drags with some major carb issues and again this June at Martin at the F.A.S.T. / factory stock race. We are getting a handle on the car finally with Mark's help. At least now we are running in the 12.70's @ 108 in 3,000+ ft air so hopefully this fall we can lay down some impressive numbers. We run an automatic and have run the hop stops and the car does not like them so we took them off so hopefully in the fall we will see better 60ft. times.

Good luck with the project !

Jody

[Norwood]

Wow Mike, that wheel was trash, nice save. Did that wheel come from North of the border?

[Judge273]

Thanks Craig, Mn is the place I think. Some things need to be restored...

[mslcar]

Hey guys, I may have the chance to pick up a real nice numbers matching 72 HO formula 4 speed car and was wondering what these cars are worth these days?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by mslcar

Hey guys, I may have the chance to pick up a real nice numbers matching 72 HO formula 4 speed car and was wondering what these cars are worth these days?

Need pics and LOTS more details to be able to give any advice worth a hoot.

Numbers matching can mean LOTS of different things to different folks. Correct block, intake, carburetor and distributor are TOUGH (read that - very expensive) to locate if missing.

Rear frame rail and other rot is expensive to repair.

I somewhat disagree with the above numbers that Eddie (no offense, Eddie) stated. The market is still soft, and I'd say that even a pristine, show quality, all #'s '72 HO M22 Formy wouldn't go for more than $35K to $45K in this market.

Anyway, welcome to PY and let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

[mslcar]

Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX

I somewhat disagree with the above numbers that Eddie (no offense, Eddie) stated. The market is still soft, and I'd say that even a pristine, show quality, all #'s '72 HO M22 Formy wouldn't go for more than $35K to $45K in this market.

Anyway, welcome to PY and let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

Thanks for the advise. Thats the price range I'm looking at so I might make the deal. I dont have any pics but I'll post in a few weeks if all works out.

[1971455HO]

Here's some inconclusive guess work. It is whatever an individual is willing to pay for a particular car. First...condition is always the deciding factor. If it is in great condition, little or no rust, and is all there, you're batting a 1000. Remember it may cost between 25-40 thousand or more, to restore it to show quality. A restored show quality car starts at $60,000 and goes up depending on how pristine and correct the restoration is. If show quality isn't an issue and the car already presents itself well cosmetically, I would just make sure it was mechanically sound and drive it's wheels off. It is hard to find a bargain, but sometimes it happens. Put some pictures on here of it and ask some of the experts here what they think it is worth before you hand over any money.

Numbers matching commands more money to the informed seller, but it also guarantees a higher value for your investment. Do your homework on this model and be sure of your facts. Knowledge is power. Spending a lot of money only to find out you've been had kinda sucks. I hope it's the real deal. Don't tarry too long if it checks out, it will be gone. I waited over a weekend to get the money for a 70 RA III 4-speed on a Friday.... on the following Monday it was gone. Sold for $8500 cash to the first buyer. I didn't dream anybody else even knew about it. "72 models are great, hope you get it.

[The Boss]

I'd agree with Lloyd's value - heck, WW5 optioned 4spd GTO's can't get that number.

[1971455HO]

No offense taken Lloyd, just feel'n a little optimistic when I wrote it fellas. I forget about the market taking a little down turn. I'm sure your right about the numbers. However, that being the case, that should also help the buyer as well. He won't have to dig as deep for this Formula.

mslcar... send these guys some pictures and they will put you on the right track. God I love these cars.

[2manyT/A'S]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...fCarsQ5fTrucks

Still seems to no shortage of these rough T/A's

[giles]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

Still seems to no shortage of these rough T/A's

I don't think anyone ever junked a TA...they just roll them into the backyard for 20 or 30 years!

[Father&Son73T/A]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...fCarsQ5fTrucks

Still seems to no shortage of these rough T/A's

Sweet Lord bejesus,10k for that thing
....and you know what you'd have to put into it.............

[165th]

Just a little teaser to keep the thread fresh.

I'm going to have the engine rebuilt this fall. Considering Butler, or a local builder here in town, Russell Duffin. He builds a pretty decent engine and holds several land speed records at the Bonneville salt flats.

It will be stock appearing, balanced rotating assembly, maybe warmed up a little but since I'm keeping the stock manifolds and pee shooter exhaust, that limitation will limit the need for too much HP.

Any other builders worth considering?

[se428bandit]

Originally Posted by 165th

Just a little teaser to keep the thread fresh.

I'm going to have the engine rebuilt this fall. Considering Butler, or a local builder here in town, Russell Duffin. He builds a pretty decent engine and holds several land speed records at the Bonneville salt flats.

It will be stock appearing, balanced rotating assembly, maybe warmed up a little but since I'm keeping the stock manifolds and pee shooter exhaust, that limitation will limit the need for too much HP.

Any other builders worth considering?

What state are you from? I have a friend in the Atlanta area who is a great Pontiac engine builder.

[OVERULD]

Originally Posted by se428bandit

What state are you from? I have a friend in the Atlanta area who is a great Pontiac engine builder.

Who might that be? I'd like to add him to my contacts for future reference.

BJ

[165th]

Thanks Bandit, I'm in San Antonio. I didn't realize that info was not on my profile.

Feel free to post a link or provide contact info. Shipping the engine would be the case anyway if going to Butler.

[giles]

Butler did my machine work and balancing. I would highly recommend them!

[disc0monkey]

that sounds like sex