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12-03-2013, 02:33 AM
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1970 455
I have what i thought was a 1970 455 ho engine. Some charts list it as an ho and some say only 1971 and 1972 are HO.IT is a 1970 xh block with 64 heads.Can someone enlighten me,any imput would be appreaciated.
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12-05-2013, 09:43 PM
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12-03-2013, 02:54 AM
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The XH "codes out" as a 350 hp 400 cu in engine for 1970
The #64 heads are for a 1970 GTO/GP 455 HO 360/370 hp..( 87 cc) info credit : Wallace racing... http://www.wallaceracing.com/engine.htm
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12-05-2013, 04:30 PM
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Were all '71 Ho's Ram Air or an option? Were many dealer installed?
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12-05-2013, 04:39 PM
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If such a "package" was installed at a dealer on a '71, it was ordered part by part over the parts counter. There was no dealer install accessory package for RA breather, & related parts.
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12-05-2013, 04:46 PM
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71 455 HO w/RA was standard only on Judge option....
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12-07-2013, 10:02 PM
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Thanks Greg for posting about WD's dyno session. The best torque and HP was achieved with 40 BTDC ignition timing. All the pulls were performed at 600RPM/sec acceleration rate. Did you load the videos of the pulls somewhere?
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12-13-2013, 03:28 AM
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Another blue on blue 4 speed.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-Tran...US_Cars_Trucks
No mention of #'s match...... Bids seem a bit optimistc this early....16K?
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12-13-2013, 09:04 AM
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Lots of need to see that one in person. Typical ebay more pix of trunk than answers to key questions.
Not sure its driveable without a fan shroud and all...
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12-13-2013, 09:59 AM
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12-13-2013, 10:52 AM
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12-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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3 days out and 38 bids....and reserve not met.......?
It looks like some shill bidding going on there. Realistically,what is this one worth,if all the important engine bits are there? 12-15k?
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12-13-2013, 03:41 PM
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Realistically... too many lingering questions out there to go 18-20K blind, got agree... lower. Its a good color combo. One would need to have an expert opinion based on facts of carefully examining the car before putting a value as a project. Right off the bat, it's been noted the 1/4's need replacing. Full blown quality metal replacement is expensive, whether the repro full quarters are intro'ed soon, or not. Has it been in Florida for decades? Is the roof & A pillars rusting from he inside? Have shipped roofs that way for cars that have suffered that fate. What else body problems are lurking? Condition of outer wheelhouses, trunk ledge, trunkpan, rear frame rails, tailpanel, doors, original hood & fenders, along with floorpans need to be noted. On the drivetrain, is the trans & rearend born with pieces? Would def knock off value on engine... On the engine, to me, SR blocks means next to squat, only way it has near original block value is with original dealer & zone paperwork, other wise the SR block is "store bought". Existence & condition of original Q-jet, distrib, & intake & exhaust manifolds also comes into the picture, original wheels are gone...
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01-04-2014, 12:39 AM
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Not a bad looking car. Don't want to pick it to death. First thing that jumped out at me was the restoration shop stated that the AC was charged and working. The compressor, muffler and hosing is wrong. That's for a Lemans or GTO. Doesn't mean it doesn't work. It's just not original to that car. Depending on how much? We'll see. Glad to see as many as can be saved... being saved.
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01-04-2014, 01:42 AM
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Decent looking car.....It WILL be fun to see where the #'s go.......
Obviously a repro interior kit....looks nice but the color is off or is it my monitor/imagination? Notice the fuel line to carb?............looks like it may have a Holly or chevy Q-jet on it from the direction it's going....
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01-04-2014, 02:06 AM
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PHS shows no A/C, wrong fenders, wrong style of a/c muffler/evaporator, lots of little things but still a solid, rust free '71 T/A with a 4 speed is tough to find.
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01-04-2014, 03:21 AM
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If I was closer I would have a look, in all the right places... I do like it, but not as investment piece nothing said about rear end, or tranny originality... when you want the big bucks, better have the goods....
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01-04-2014, 03:42 PM
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No ac on the PHS is a big red flag.
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01-04-2014, 03:58 PM
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The non AC kick panels are still installed. I wonder if they are functional?
Indicates fresh new paint... including over the door latch hardware. The stripes are not TransAmStripes.net. I can tell from here 
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01-04-2014, 04:18 PM
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I wonder if that was the car that went through Barrett-Jackson some years ago that was a rebodied car. I Knew of one that a local dealer took there and sold for big money.
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