[archerytony]

I bought a pair of Dougs headers for my poncho powered cutlass and they are the nicest fitting headers I have installed. I have less than 5000 miles on them and I was under my car this last sept and the ceramic coat is peeling and they have rust on the lower pipes. I dont mind spending on good parts. Sometimes things happen so I called them and sent them pictures and they said for $75 plus ship they would recoat them. Mind you these have never seen winter and my car is inside unheated garage when parked. I have had them on the car a year last july infact I posted on here when I got it going. Heres pic I had to crawl under in -25 to take them

[archerytony]

Opps heres the picture

[David Jones]

Those look painted?
What is the white substance on the surface of the car?
My Doug's are 4-5 years old and simply look brand new.

[indymanjoe]

Mine are 3 and look great still.Looks like snow to me dave.

[400 plus]

-25 That would be FROST. Same here they look painted

[carcrazy]

Mine look fine after 2 years. As previously noted those look painted!

[indymanjoe]

-25,the heater should have kicked on sooner..

[chrisp]

ceramic colored paint

[BARRACUDA1968]

Nope not paint, I had the same problem. Mine had a textured type coating that did the same thing in the same amount of time.

I'm not sure what a guy could do to preserve this type of coating? On my TTI headers on the Cuda I just spray them down with WD40 before winter storage. I could easily clean the TTI's with neverdull. The Dougs don't have the same coating, or at least mine didn't.

Before



I took them to Cool Concepts in Amana Iowa and had them re-coated with his process. He guarantees it for 3 years. It is very similar to the TTI coating.

[archerytony]

I assure you they are not painted they were brand new out of the box when I put them on. pedtronix called me back since I posted this (they own dougs now) he was really nice to talk to and he said they have had people coat them and sell as dougs coated headers so I need to find out who they shipped from. If its theirs they will recoat them if I ship them. I dread taking them off in this weather but I would like them by spring and I know how that can go.

[archerytony]

Originally Posted by 400 plus

-25 That would be FROST. Same here they look painted

yes its frost!

[Firebob]

YIKES!!!!(from sunny, in a drought, California)

[goatman65]

My dougs rusted in less than 2 yrs. I think the biggest problem is the unheated garage,mine is also unheated. When we have weather that is humid and damp in the spring or it goes from cold to kinda warm my car sweats.It looks like it was hosed off and covered up wet. The engine and underside get it the most. I think all that condensation is what causes my headers to rust,along with any bare metal parts.

[steve25]

I would get them recoated, or get new ones, as the coating drops under hoos temps buy a huge amount, just take a thremal gun to uncoated headers and then coated one once the motor has been off for 3 minutes and the choise is clear!!

[HWYSTR455]

Originally Posted by goatman65

... goes from cold to kinda warm my car sweats....

That's not why my cars sweat!

My Doug's are a number of years old and are rusted, lasted as long as to be expected, but have grind marks from bottoming, and will be replacing them. I think I may go back to Hookers, would like my back drive linkage back. I had to hammer a spot on my Doug's to make them fit, that bothered me some, so figure what the heck, might as well go Hookers at this point.

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[David Jones]

Something strange going on with the Doug's headers. Some last, some don't. The pictures I'm seeing show the coating on some coming off all over the pipes. All at once. Mine look pretty close to new...except where I've managed to scratch them slightly. I've had oil burned on them a time or two and it comes right off with some GoJo. I looked up my installation and they went on in Feb 2008 and I drive about 2500 miles a year. The picture below was from May of 2013.

[BARRACUDA1968]

Originally Posted by David Jones

Something strange going on with the Doug's headers. Some last, some don't. The pictures I'm seeing show the coating on some coming off all over the pipes. All at once. Mine look pretty close to new...except where I've managed to scratch them slightly. I've had oil burned on them a time or two and it comes right off with some GoJo. I looked up my installation and they went on in Feb 2008 and I drive about 2500 miles a year. The picture below was from May of 2013.

Your coating is not the same as mine was or the OP's.

You look to have a smother type coating that I had put on mine at Cool Concepts. Maybe Dougs had 2 different coating options or decided to change at some point?

[grandville455]

Tony Mine did the same thing, years back on my grandville so did a friends of mine, we eneded up sending them back to dougs, I think it was before they were bought out? They recoated them for 90 dollars If i remember right?

[HWYSTR455]

Hey Dave, is that a ground strap on the header or is that an optical illusion? If ground, what's the thinking there? Curious...

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[old66tiger]

I wouldn't even screw around with Pertronix. Call Motorsports powder coating in Delavan, wi. They do ceramic along with other stuff. Tim is a good guy and will give you the straight story.