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Old 11-30-2016, 01:54 PM
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After nearly ten years of this car bouncing between myself and two local friends after rescuing it out of Waxahachie with Gus (shoebox1.1), it will get running finally and on the track in 2017. This will be taking place of my Olds wagon has a home for my 455. The wagon is going back to 350 Olds power for street duty , cruising and traveling. This will just be bare bones rattle can Walmart white gutted out interior car. Already got some Fabcraft 3.64 gears for her from my buddy Matt (ENG-N_EAR). Will just need to do all the brakes and buy the 1-3/4 Maddogg headers. Already got some 1/2" aluminum line .. battery in back and fuel cell out back is the plan. Black steel wheels with 28x9-15 MT slicks I suppose. Depending on final race weight I am hoping its is a few hundred below the current wagon setup and should bust off high 11's without changing anything on the engines maybe better. I have crappy 1-5/8 headers and a 3/8 supply body line on the wagon currently. I better proper roller cam later but goal is whittle down to a consistent 11.5 car eventually for brackets. Paul (PJPONTIAC) has the car now and ready to collaborate on it. Should begin brake work in Dec or January. I had stripped all that locked up stuff off when we got it as the drums were stuck rusted etc and change to RH studs all the way around.
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Old 11-30-2016, 05:53 PM
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Ought to be a lot of fun; keep us posted on the progress.

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69 Bird w/1970 400 block(409 cubes), #64 heads, hyd. roller, Q-jet by Jeff E., original interior, ps, pdb, th350, and 3.73 gears. Pump gas, street driven muscle. 3800 lbs. race weight. Best, 11.39 @118, my son's car.

79 T/A w/463, Scat crank, Eagle rods, Icon pistons, Lunati solid roller, 262/270, KRE 325 heads, Northwind intake, QF950 carb, full interior, ps, pdb, th350, and 3.73 gears. Pump gas, 3650 lbs. race weight. 10.68 @ 126 so far... no tuning yet.
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Will do. Going up finally to a 1 3/4 primary has got to be a solid gain over the dented 1 5/8 that is on it now. Make it light as I can. Probably d0 the scarebird front disc conversion too

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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
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Old 12-01-2016, 03:53 PM
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I think the 455 will appreciate the new home, and the headers should make some difference. What exhaust do you plan to run from the headers back?

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79 T/A w/463, Scat crank, Eagle rods, Icon pistons, Lunati solid roller, 262/270, KRE 325 heads, Northwind intake, QF950 carb, full interior, ps, pdb, th350, and 3.73 gears. Pump gas, 3650 lbs. race weight. 10.68 @ 126 so far... no tuning yet.
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It will be a 3" X pipe set up to the axle I suppose but I may just put 3" extensions and leave it be

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66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:48 AM
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Scored good local deal on the series 2 Safe T Track donor rear (2.69) I need to fit the thick ring 3.64 gears to plus some extra loaded backing plates so I can do rear brakes off the car in advance after I build the chunk
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Does this rear compare in strength to a Ford 9" ?

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Does this rear compare in strength to a Ford 9" ?
Stronger actually. 9.3" ring , starts at 31 spline axles (aftermarket 35 spline) , giant thick strong pinion 1.8" dia versus 1.4" ford. Used in the early fuel dragsters even with OEM 4 pinion posi units holding up. 57-64 Olds Pontiac

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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg

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Probably go for the no lower head light and SD scoop look with black steelies but the Chevy Car Rallys in a 5x5 15x8 look good. Plan on trying some Hedman 1-3/4 headers for a 68 Firebird $244
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
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Sweet! Nice move Larry! Guess I won't see you on the Olds board as much anymore!

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Sweet! Nice move Larry! Guess I won't see you on the Olds board as much anymore!

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LOL, Thanks Yes no more Hybrids for me

Oh I am still around CO and will be getting some good old American road time in the to be detuned 70 red wagon with 355 SBO soon and the frame off clean up of my F85 4 speed Rallye

Might even do a under hood small cell to feed my RobMc mechanical pump on the Catalina

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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Car finally came home on July 29. Immediately went to work with engine right away. All new brakes ready to bleed as of yesterday. Hedman 1.75 67 firebird headers on after a frame clearance on driver side. New aluminum radiator. Converted to manual steering in process.manual brake conversion done. gear setup new 3.64 set on a HD 4 pinion unit installed and done. New alum fuel cell and battery box mounting soon. Car has been of road 25-30 years at the least
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Also scored some 255/60-15 MT drag radials for the rear , they are mounted on 15x7 steelies
I got new 215/75-15 on some 15x6 steelies for the front. 455 got the badly needed new brass freeze plugs while it was out. 72 VW beetle light bucket seat although may turn into regular drag buckets anyway.
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Yesterday was a great day in that the car has now a solid working brake system for the first time in 20 plus years and a mock up of the rear tires for clearance check. The 255/60 MT DR easily fit could do 275 later
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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I had some delays working on the ole Cat with my Dad needing more care with his Alzheimer's but today got the Manual gearbox swap done and a vintage 60's Champ 500 wheel and also fabricating a cross member for the short tail BOP TH 350
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Almost there making good progress and the fun of using old junk you saved or friends offer to help.
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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Hey Larry, I have some OBX stainless headers for a 68-72 A-body, they don't fit my car, brand new, will let them go for $100 and that includes shipping. The passenger side collector point in some towards the center of the car, won't work with my 4L80E. PM me if you're interested. For that kind of money, you can put a couple cuts in them and tig them back straight even.

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63 Catalina coupe 455 budget drag car 11's 1/4 , 7.4 1/8th
66 Star Chief Executive 57k mile
69 Le Mans 2 dr HT 350 85k mile 15 sec 1/4
69 Firebird 400 Burgandy/Black
70 Olds Rallye 350 F85 4 speed 3.91's
70 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Red Wagon 350 101k miles 15 sec 1/4 12 sec w 455
74 Cheyenne Super C10 LWB Gen 6 454 w ZZ502 cam 3.07gear 13.1 1/4, 8.3 1/8
2020 RAM 1500 SLT 4x4 5.7 A8 Hemi
2007 Hummer H3 3.7 liter turd
2019 Chevy Spark petrol car 38 mpg
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Been a while since my last post. Got the car running and decide since it is a rough car and keeping in that theme it gets rat rod style rust repair and patching in the floor and or trunk. I made it for a first test this past Saturday night during a 'Ultimate Street Night" which is DOT only and I have the MT ET Street 255/60 DR's on it I could. Something funny though happened though, unknowing to me I had some trapped sand and dirt in my cross-member front frame area that came out after the initial jolt of the launch. Needless to say I didn't know the it did that and explained my confusion on what happened when my first pass against a white Charger Hellcat. it hooked front end up and maybe only 10 feet into the 60 foot it pegged out the tach on the limited at 6100 spinning apparently an di lifted on throttle and then stabbed it again and road out second to third. The Hellcat was snoozing and I had a big reaction hole shot and made it passed the 1/8th before he did a FAST flyby on his way to a 10.89@134 almost 107 at the 1/8 ! to my wheel spinning on and off throttle 12.5@108. My friends saw the dirt and thought it was smoke and it had went down the track requiring clean up. I pulled around to go again and switched to left lane still unaware of that being the issue. I was spinning in my own dirt ! LOL I left hard and pulled the left front wheel on initial hit and then immediate on the rev limiter spinning again but I didn't lift and spun all thru second gear and just lifted and cruised to my trailer. Track security came to see me with lights on and told me about the dirt. Good news it s my current goal of 11.9 is very doable next time when I get an actually full hooking run. My first pass had 1.82 60 foot with about the last 50 feet spinning. I didn't even get my slip on the second. The car met my weight goal it is just about 500 # lighter than the Cutlass wagon was 3780# w me in it versus 4250# on old wag. Car had no vibration at speed and felt smooth .. LOVE using radials Updates again over the next few weeks.
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