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04-05-2005, 08:23 PM
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I hope someone here can give me some guidance. My brother found a '73 Formula 455 HO car today for sale and he is very interested in buying it. I didn't get many details but it is supposed to be a clean car, probably a 4-speed, and it is white. He is going to look at it in the next day or so.
Can anyone give me some idea of what this car might be worth? I know I didn't provide much information (and he hasn't seen the car yet - this is all information from the seller) but I wanted to at least give him some ballpark numbers before he gets there to look at it. Things are changing too fast with these cars and I haven't really kept up with the current selling prices lately to offer him my opinions. Also, does anyone have the production numbers for this car? I appreciate the help. Scott
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04-05-2005, 08:23 PM
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I hope someone here can give me some guidance. My brother found a '73 Formula 455 HO car today for sale and he is very interested in buying it. I didn't get many details but it is supposed to be a clean car, probably a 4-speed, and it is white. He is going to look at it in the next day or so.
Can anyone give me some idea of what this car might be worth? I know I didn't provide much information (and he hasn't seen the car yet - this is all information from the seller) but I wanted to at least give him some ballpark numbers before he gets there to look at it. Things are changing too fast with these cars and I haven't really kept up with the current selling prices lately to offer him my opinions. Also, does anyone have the production numbers for this car? I appreciate the help. Scott
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04-06-2005, 09:20 AM
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There was no 455 HO in 73. Either standard 455 or the SD455.
I don't think there is a breakdown between the engines for the Formulas other than for the SD engine. Being a 455 and 4 speed it is probably rare.
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04-06-2005, 11:43 AM
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johnta1,
Thanks for the information. I wasn't sure about the 455 HO but that is the info my brother passed on to me so I just repeated it here. I knew someone would let me know if that was not correct and I will be sure to let my brother know that. Scott
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04-06-2005, 07:32 PM
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I believe there were 730 formulas built in 73 with the standard 455, and 43 sd cars. You might try the formula source web side! I haven't heard what these cars are going for but would like to know myself since I have one. Saved it from certain death!
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04-06-2005, 07:44 PM
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You are right about production. There were 10, 166 Formulas built in 1973. Here is the breakdown:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE> <LI>43 of them were SD's <LI>730 were Y code 455 engines (250 hp/370 ft lbs) <LI>9,393 were Formula 350 or Formula 400[/list] I bought my '73 Formula 455 last summer for $12.5k. It is a rust free CA car with automatic, AC, PW and deluxe interior. I would think that a range of $10k to $15k for a #2 or #3 car would be reasonable. I have seen people ask $25k for a #1 car but I doubt they got it. |
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04-07-2005, 01:58 AM
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Depending on condition (I assume it is a running driver at least, not a basket case) I would GUESS somewhere between 5-7K upwards to 25-30K for a flawless model.
Sounds tasty!
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04-07-2005, 10:50 AM
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Thanks everyone for the additional information.
The owner told my brother that the car recently had a complete restoration though we don't know specifically what was done. The car was supposed to have been garage kept most, if not all, of the time since new so I am expecting it to be in very good condition. Based on this my guess is a price somewhere in the teens to low 20's is probably realistic? Scott
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04-07-2005, 04:11 PM
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That sounds about right to me price-wise, but the word "restoration" can have wildly different meanings depending on who you ask.
Definately check it out and check for the correctness of everything. |
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04-09-2005, 04:07 PM
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I was told years ago that only around 250 of the 730 Formula 455's made in 73' were 4-speed cars. Let me know if Im off on that figure? Mines a 73' 455 was 4-speed, now TH400.
Make sure you check the 5th digit in the vin# for a Y for 455 & X for SD455. I've seen a few Formula 400's with a 455 that tried to go as a Formula 455 in the last 2 years. Also White is a nice color  Ron
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04-15-2005, 09:53 AM
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I thought the real catch (and this as why '73 W66/455 production was so low), was that the 455 could only be had with a th400??
On the sad side, there was a '73 W66/455 car crushed here a couple years ago - by the same idiots responsable for crushing a '70 455 'HO' GTO (at/coupe)... but I understand the '73 Formula's tags still exist!?
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04-16-2005, 09:04 AM
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unruhjonny,
My 73' Foormula 455 came with a Muncie 4-speed stock.
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