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All I can say is 2 things, WOW! and you have more self-control than most people.


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Cleaned the pistons and checked the ring grooves all looks OK. Dropped the crank into another block and spun it with a dial indicator. Looks like it's out by .001. I'll have it checked by the pro's before it goes back in. Rod bearings are nice too. Only thing out by a fair amount was the flywheel. It's an ATI SFI and pretty thick. Not sure if bolting the torque converter on would have straightened it. It's also out of round by about .010.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:27 PM
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All I can say is 2 things, WOW! and you have more self-control than most people.

Self control? Maybe. Block was 5years old and **** happens to race parts. I'll never know 100% what happened, so no use to flip out. If it was a problem with the block, I'm sure they didn't know about it at the time. It's the way they handled the problem when they heard about it. I appreciate that. ... Eric.

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Old 12-26-2014, 11:29 PM
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Self control? Maybe. Block was 5years old and **** happens to race parts. I'll never know 100% what happened, so no use to flip out. If it was a problem with the block, I'm sure they didn't know about it at the time. It's the way they handled the problem when they heard about it. I appreciate that. ... Eric.
Its only amazing because he can hardly help himself from bashing, and it was not his engine. If it were a "different" block he would be blaming you for ruining an indestructible block.


On a side note.....on topic actually. Any chance it junked the converter? Sorry you went through this...been there.

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Old 12-27-2014, 12:07 AM
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Its only amazing because he can hardly help himself from bashing, and it was not his engine. If it were a "different" block he would be blaming you for ruining an indestructible block.


On a side note.....on topic actually. Any chance it junked the converter? Sorry you went through this...been there.
I don't think so. Car still ran with no noises at all. I just lost pressure. I will check out this trany and converter also. The one that blew is already rebuilt and the converter was checked.

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Its only amazing because he can hardly help himself from bashing, and it was not his engine. If it were a "different" block he would be blaming you for ruining an indestructible block.


On a side note.....on topic actually. Any chance it junked the converter? Sorry you went through this...been there.
How could the broken block trash the converter, misalignment?

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How could the broken block trash the converter, misalignment?
trashed converter could break block......


chicken or egg? lol

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trashed converter could break block......


chicken or egg? lol
true... bent out of round flexplate could have hurt convertor or vice versa where internal convertor failure hurt flex plate.

Reading through all speculation posted so far, its clear that anything that affects/disrupts harmonic control can cause a failure of something that starts a chain of events that ends up ugly.

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yeah that sucks.... vibration, detonation, and harmonics can do lots of damage. Yes very lucky it didn't let loose going thru the traps.... I don't recall hearing about an aftermarket block cracking like this, like T.V. said (especially on #4??) well, now you can make that Bitchin Pontiac coffee table that everyone would love to have

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yeah that sucks.... vibration, detonation, and harmonics can do lots of damage. Yes very lucky it didn't let loose going thru the traps.... I don't recall hearing about an aftermarket block cracking like this, like T.V. said (especially on #4??) well, now you can make that Bitchin Pontiac coffee table that everyone would love to have
Table's in the works! Glass top is being sourced as we speak.

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If it were a "different" block he would be blaming you for ruining an indestructible block.


On that "different" block all these things were brought up and you all said BS, no way it could do it.




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How could the broken block trash the converter, misalignment?
Converter gets crammed into pump, pump self destructs sending metal into converter, and trans....got the t-shirt....

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Table's in the works! Glass top is being sourced as we speak.
I was wondering if the AP folks might want the old block....to look at, I would....

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Converter gets crammed into pump, pump self destructs sending metal into converter, and trans....got the t-shirt....
I do as well...I thought he meant the opposite chain of events.

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I do as well...I thought he meant the opposite chain of events.
oh...

although I had a friend w/ a SBC super comp dragster have the opposite occur, still not sure how, exactly...

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I'm going to suggest that you solid mount the engine in one place only. Rear mid plate with flexible mountings front and at trans. You may be inducing some forces inthat block through chassis twist.

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Old 12-29-2014, 07:16 PM
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If something let loose inside the converter;an out-balance converter could wreak havoc at RPM; sending several tons of rotating Cf loads into the Rear main. Even losing one of the "converter bolts".

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