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Old 12-19-2011, 03:16 PM
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Hammer out a patch from cold-rolled flat stock.

<Someone on the board mentioned (previously) about reproducing that line. . . I wondered how they went about doing that?>

They used a tool called a hammer. A claw hammer would be fine if it's all you have. I was willing to share some metal fabrication techniques, and attempted to do so a few years ago, but nobody seemed to give a phuck, so wtf should I?

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Old 12-19-2011, 04:16 PM
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Hammer out a patch from cold-rolled flat stock.

<Someone on the board mentioned (previously) about reproducing that line. . . I wondered how they went about doing that?>

They used a tool called a hammer. A claw hammer would be fine if it's all you have. I was willing to share some metal fabrication techniques, and attempted to do so a few years ago, but nobody seemed to give a phuck, so wtf should I?
Ouch, I guess I asked a dumb question, my apologies! Please note, I do have some body-hammers, and dollies - I even have a small brake (mounted to my bench) and a shrinker/stretcher. I also have a nice big 4' X 8' sheet of 18ga cold rolled sheet metal.

I would be very interested in hearing or learning ANY/ALL shaping/fab techniques (I do, very sincerely). If you have the time or inclination, I would be pleased (and honored) to receive any guidance you may have! I try and practice where/when I can (and have read Ron Fournier's book cover-to-cover) but no replacement, for real 'hands on' expertise.

I checked back (with PaulAtFast/Paintguy) who (when I undertook this project - gulp more than 2 years ago) provided me with some great advice http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...3&postcount=16 on the quarter (skin) replacement. That is only to replace what I absolutely needed to replace. I do know the outer wheelhouse (on the passenger side) has damage on the edge which connects into the quarter - around the wheel opening. It also has damage (in the lower wheel opening) closest to the passenger side door. Therefore, I figure I need to 'cut somewhere' above the body line to graft in a patch (or a skin). Note I did purchase repop skins and outer wheel-houses to go on the car.

I worked on a procedure (see my other post in the GTO Body thread http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=682777) for replacing the quarter. I realize the full-1/4 is optimal, however I have the skins now, so just trying to get the car back together, looking decent (doesn't have to be 100%).

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Old 12-19-2011, 06:14 PM
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I am the guy that took a hammer and chisel to my goodmark skins since the sharp crease down the body was rounded off so badly on the skin. It went okay but obviously there were marks that required filler.

BUT, I only used the last foot and a half of the skin. I used the lower skin as a patch.

I now have to redo the bottom completely, you can tell its "pushed" in at the bottom. My father rushed it and welded it in, and the lower quarter panel is in 1.5 inches to far, the skins simply dont have enough metal down there.

It looks horrible and definately no where near stock, we are cutting it off and going with a stock lower quarter panel patch, that way it matches and looks right. If you have old goodmark skins you might be okay? both sides of mine were bad, passenger was worse than drivers though.

I returned the passenger side.

I saw this guys patches.. but I am not sure who makes them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...sories&vxp=mtr

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Old 12-19-2011, 06:25 PM
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Hey Mikes2nd,
Don't mean to hijack mrennies thread, but could you describe in detail what issues you had with the tail section of the full quarter? I have one sitting here, and I am trying to decide whether to cut patches from it or do a full replacement.

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Old 12-20-2011, 12:17 PM
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Hey Mikes2nd,
Don't mean to hijack mrennies thread, but could you describe in detail what issues you had with the tail section of the full quarter? I have one sitting here, and I am trying to decide whether to cut patches from it or do a full replacement.
it wasnt a huge issue, but the stamping put some large rippling around the back flat panel(the one that flushes with the trunk(below the bend).

It was bent in also(I think from shipping damage) and I will have to use body filler to get the rippling right. Not a huge deal. I was able to bend it back and it seemed to line up pretty well with the trunk lid.

It just depends how much damage is on your quarter? How much time will it take to repair that damage? The body lines on the 70-72 are insane... The humps and ridges and waves... I've seen so many horrible bondo jobs on these cars.

Im a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to body work, but why do it half arsed?

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Old 12-24-2011, 01:56 PM
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I saw this guys patches.. but I am not sure who makes them.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...sories&vxp=mtr
Those are pretty rough pieces. Made by Classic Reproductions in Greenville OH. Just like the skins, they can be used successfully in the right situation. one of the biggest pains is the complete lack of a rear edge. If you have a rust issue that is only directly behind the wheel opening, this might be a good solution.

The skins are totaly usable. A little blocking goes along way, actually alot of blocking in this case!

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Old 12-24-2011, 10:54 PM
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the amount of work on those skins is insane...

and the edge line is rounded. so i don't know how you block the sheet metal down.

get a full quarter instead of skins

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