[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Me too! A Sundance HO - A or F is a dream car for me.

Didn't you already own a 72 WW5 Sundance Automatic ...with MEMO Invoice ?
*edit- oh yeh and a Red WW5 4spd
GLUTTON !

Fremont built HO & invoiced as GMAC company car - interesting.

I have about 12 or so 72 WW5 GTO cars/documents on file.
This is the only example from Fremont so far. All others are PMD or Atlanta.
3 are Sundance now, and all 3 Sundancers have a little extra step in their history.

Steve Barcaks former WW5 Sundance would be a 4th one, but don't think I have any documentation for it.

It is actually printed as GMAD .
I don't know what/who GMAD is/was ... but 60-662 is more like a fleet or supplier or vendor account code. Like the AC Spark Plug 72 WW5 Sundance was 60-206.
Just a curious point if whether GMAC Finance also went under GMAD - or if GMAD is something else entirely.

Questions for some of you well versed WW5 enthusiasts -

1. Did you notice this car is billed separately for 455HO and WW5 - when the 455HO was part of the WW5 package. Have not seen this before.
Maybe they were making up for Pat Brown's free 455HO car. lol

2. I thought I was told that the WW5 option price reveals whether the car was Automatic or 4speed. But I have various examples that are messing me up.

For examples -
$ 982.00 / 987.00 option price

1006.86 / 1012.13 option price

What do these price levels represent again ?
I need a refresher course on these cars.

This Fremont example doesn't list 15" RWL Tires in WW5 package.
Is that a part of the 987 vs. 1012 variation ?

So is $982 4spd and $987 Auto ?
1006 4spd with RWL , 1012 Auto with RWL ?

Thanks guys

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Didn't you already own a 72 WW5 Sundance Automatic ...with MEMO Invoice ?
*edit- oh yeh and a Red WW5 4spd
GLUTTON !

Guilty as charged - and it turned out really nice.....after I sold it.



I wouldn't mind owning this car, even though it's just a LeMans, and an automatic one at that!

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Have 15 , 1972 GTO WW5 cars documented.

4 - 4 speeds ( 2 with A/C )

11 - Auto ( 7 with A/C ) ( 4 of the 11 are Bench Seat with Column Shift )

But I think one car is mis-labeled.
Sumpn aint right.


$ 982
Red 4spd 9-22-72 = VIN P142428 = Inv 740155 Para, NJ
Orange 4spd 6-12-72 = VIN P2030xx = Inv 612341 Corv, OR

$ 987
Gold Auto 3-14-72 = VIN A171774 = Inv 480131 Atlanta, GA
Gold Auto Bench ?-?-? = VIN P168515 = Inv ? Bell, WA
Green Auto Bench 1-5-72 = VIN A143220 = Inv 315943 Clark, TN
Yellow Auto 6-6-72 = VIN A210424 = Inv 668110 Austin, TX
Red Auto ?-?-? = VIN A176779 = Inv 528623 Unknown, USA
Orange Auto ?-?-? = VIN Z104729 = Inv ? Van Nuys, CA
Unkown Auto 4-2x-72 = VIN ? = Inv ? (very dark PHS along top) Smyrna,??

$ 1006
Red 4spd 11-19-71 = VIN A130269 = Inv 233415 Franklin, TN

$ 1006
Boss Orange 11-20-71 = VIN P129379 = Inv 234050 SouthOrange, NJ

$ 1012
Blue Auto Bench 10-4-71 = VIN P114715 = Inv 116759 Skokie, IL
Silver Auto Bench 9-24-71 = VIN P109194 = Inv 096534 xxxx, IL
Orange Auto 9- 16-71 = VIN P? = Inv 078327 (AC Spark Plug Car) Flint, MI


No Price Structure Docs - just Buildsheet and Trim tag
Gold 4spd 5-?-72 = VIN A193008 = Inv ? Gaith, MD

Steve Barcack's Orange 4spd would make 16 - if I had a copy.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Yo Boss, why is your old Orange/White/White considered an Automatic car ?
It looks just like the Red 4spd @ $1006, and Built/Invoiced only 1 day apart.
Very tight VIN and Invoice Numbers, although from different plants.
Heck of a comparison.

Option was more early in model/billing.
Auto's were a few bucks more than 4 speeds in both price groups.

Whats up with this deal on the Orange and Red @ $1006
Both would be 4 speeds , right ?

[The Boss]

The Orange one was a stick car, my red one was also a stick but had an auto in it the whole time I owned it. Both Pontiac Plant builds & both from NJ.

Sundance Memo car




Cardinal

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Have 15 , 1972 GTO WW5 cars documented.

4 - 4 speeds ( 2 with A/C )

11 - Auto ( 7 with A/C ) ( 4 of the 11 are Bench Seat with Column Shift )

But I think one car is mis-labeled.
Sumpn aint right.


$ 982
Red 4spd 9-22-72 = VIN P142428 = Inv 740155 Para, NJ
Orange 4spd 6-12-72 = VIN P2030xx = Inv 612341 Corv, OR

$ 987
Gold Auto 3-14-72 = VIN A171774 = Inv 480131 Atlanta, GA
Gold Auto Bench ?-?-? = VIN P168515 = Inv ? Bell, WA
Green Auto Bench 1-5-72 = VIN A143220 = Inv 315943 Clark, TN
Yellow Auto 6-6-72 = VIN A210424 = Inv 668110 Austin, TX
Red Auto ?-?-? = VIN A176779 = Inv 528623 Unknown, USA
Orange Auto ?-?-? = VIN Z104729 = Inv ? Van Nuys, CA
Unkown Auto 4-2x-72 = VIN ? = Inv ? (very dark PHS along top) Smyrna,??

$ 1006
Red 4spd 11-19-71 = VIN A130269 = Inv 233415 Franklin, TN

$ 1006
Boss Orange 11-20-71 = VIN P129379 = Inv 234050 SouthOrange, NJ

$ 1012
Blue Auto Bench 10-4-71 = VIN P114715 = Inv 116759 Skokie, IL
Silver Auto Bench 9-24-71 = VIN P109194 = Inv 096534 xxxx, IL
Orange Auto 9- 16-71 = VIN P? = Inv 078327 (AC Spark Plug Car) Flint, MI


No Price Structure Docs - just Buildsheet and Trim tag
Gold 4spd 5-?-72 = VIN A193008 = Inv ? Gaith, MD

Steve Barcack's Orange 4spd would make 16 - if I had a copy.

Hey Todd:

I have the build sheet for that gold M22 WW5 car as well. Gleaned it from an e-bay auction. I also have no further docs or info on that car.

We had a lengthy discussion here on the firum concerning WW5 tidbits and option pricing years ago. I'll see if I can find it. I do recall that M22/M40 affected the price, as well as coupe vs. hardtop AND production dates. There was a mid-1972 model year price adjustment, something to do with a federal excise tax change, possibly?

[trishieldchief]

Originally Posted by The Boss

Guilty as charged - and it turned out really nice.....after I sold it.



I wouldn't mind owning this car, even though it's just a LeMans, and an automatic one at that!

Chis that HO Sundance hardtop looks great.
What happened to that car?

[starlightblack]

This is the color of WW5 I want - 4spd. please. So, so beautiful.

[trishieldchief]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

This is the color of WW5 I want - 4spd. please. So, so beautiful.

There was a Shadow Gold HO body on Ebay just a week or so ago located in Michigan.

[starlightblack]

Originally Posted by trishieldchief

There was a Shadow Gold HO body on Ebay just a week or so ago located in Michigan.

thanks Rich. Wow, I'd buy this if it had an engine, but $8500 with no drivetrain - not even the 12 bolt - is a bit rich. Does it really have all the WW5 OPTIONS as he claims? I AM not seeing G60-15s

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...909971?vxp=mtr

['ol Pinion head]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

thanks Rich. Wow, I'd buy this if it had an engine, but $8500 with no drivetrain - not even the 12 bolt - is a bit rich. Does it really have all the WW5 OPTIONS as he claims? I AM not seeing G60-15s

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...909971?vxp=mtr

Ck th bottom of the first column. Code 724 handling package includes the 15x7 wheels, G60-15's, specific springs, the ride and handling shocks, and the large rear swaybar. Rally II's were optioned above, so car had KR's...something else to track down

Agree on the pricing, I'd hazard to state that the car might be worth that buy it now, if it at least had the original coded WM block. Much better pics would help.

[trishieldchief]

Originally Posted by starlightblack

thanks Rich. Wow, I'd buy this if it had an engine, but $8500 with no drivetrain - not even the 12 bolt - is a bit rich. Does it really have all the WW5 OPTIONS as he claims? I AM not seeing G60-15s

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pontiac-GTO-...909971?vxp=mtr

I think that car looks pretty good.
Rare car in that color, plus 455 HO stick!
Hard to say no,special car in my opinion.